• Wednesday, September 18, 2019

Pakistan Air Force has the first shoot capability - Air Commodore (R) Syed Sajad Haider

Discussion in 'Pakistan Air Force' started by Pomegranate, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. Pomegranate

    Pomegranate SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    2,098
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Ratings:
    +1 / 4,540 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Pakistan Air Force has the first shoot capability - Air Commodore (R) Syed Sajad Haider





     
    • Thanks Thanks x 22
  2. Hakikat ve Hikmet

    Hakikat ve Hikmet SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    7,952
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Ratings:
    +11 / 14,225 / -1
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    United States
    The folk hasn't lost a bit of his sharp edge and astute intellect he had in '65!! A true warrior never dies, nor does he fade away!!! His essence resonates in younger ones with more intensity...
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 38
  3. loanranger

    loanranger FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    520
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2019
    Ratings:
    +0 / 506 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    What does he mean by first shoot capability?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. Pomegranate

    Pomegranate SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    2,098
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Ratings:
    +1 / 4,540 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    It is pretty simple You have the first shoot capability if you can detect, track , Lock and shoot down your enemy aircraft before they do that.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 23
  5. Jinn Baba

    Jinn Baba SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    2,323
    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2015
    Ratings:
    +5 / 3,303 / -6
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Longer range AAM. He said even vs Rafale, which means we have something longer ranged than Meteor.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 17
  6. Mrc

    Mrc ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    8,387
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2013
    Ratings:
    +4 / 8,733 / -5
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Qatar
    It means game over ivast majority of times
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3
  7. Flight of falcon

    Flight of falcon FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    649
    Joined:
    May 22, 2019
    Ratings:
    +4 / 1,342 / -2
    Country:
    Canada
    Location:
    Canada

    I ran into him at Islamabad book shop. He invited me over to his house and I met and spent few hours with him. Excellent human being.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 19
  8. Xestan

    Xestan SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,361
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Ratings:
    +3 / 2,035 / -0
    It's sad that a war hero like him couldn't go above the rank of Air Commodore. Petty politics even affected the PAF top command during Zia.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 14
  9. Hakikat ve Hikmet

    Hakikat ve Hikmet SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    7,952
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Ratings:
    +11 / 14,225 / -1
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    United States
    And, possibly coupled with better EW capabilities!!!
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 7
  10. doorstar

    doorstar FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,218
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Ratings:
    +0 / 2,324 / -0
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    At the present time , the Pakistan air force has one air chief marshal, 9 air marshals and 39 air vice marshals. do you know how many Air Commodores were there in his day? and should they have all been promoted? do you people let go of any opportunity to criticize Pakistan forces using nonsensical logic and argument?

    BTW Gen Zia ul Haq declared martial law in 1977 and became head of state in 1978 when Sayyad Sajjad Haider was just 2 years away from retirement. I highly doubt that either one knew the other, let alone Zia going around hunting Shia Muslims in the air force to deny them promotions. he was busy fighting Soviets while sectarian scum were busy with civil war!

     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
    • Thanks Thanks x 13
  11. mqur1963

    mqur1963 FULL MEMBER

    New Recruit

    Messages:
    80
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Ratings:
    +0 / 42 / -0
    pl15
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  12. Trango Towers

    Trango Towers ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    10,002
    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Ratings:
    +1 / 9,360 / -4
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    I have always said
    Forget f16s. Focus on jf17.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 5
  13. Dazzler

    Dazzler PDF THINK TANK: CONSULTANT

    Messages:
    7,596
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Ratings:
    +17 / 16,249 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United States
    SH is quite an intellect, educates you like a teacher. Always a pleasure to meet this fine gentleman.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 14
  14. Basel

    Basel ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    8,035
    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2013
    Ratings:
    +2 / 5,463 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Not just longer ranged AAM, to launch long range BVR you also need long range fire control radar for aircraft.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  15. NA71

    NA71 FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    934
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    Ratings:
    +1 / 974 / -0
    couple of glimpses of PAF's jets few....also animated J16 was also shown repeatedly...... koi hint tu nahein hey....massomana sawal.

    SH..... May Allah bless you forever.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3