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Nothing but stupid and petty excuses. Tell this senator that the whole of US military should be disbanded if they can be beaten so easily by poor countries. Trillions of dollars, most modern weapons, intelligence and surveillance, the world's most advanced military and they are beaten by taliban only because of few sanctuaries by Pakistan????? That too after thousands of drone strikes in Pakistan territory?? Who stopped them from bombing those sanctuaries???
Pakistanis here laughing but this should be highlighted as dumb and stupid excuses by US and trying to stomach the money they owe us. Seriously wht kind of morons would accept these excuses?? We faced extremism and terrorism because of US and their dual games. Its the US that played both sides and damaged us.
We, Syrian, Iraqis, Afghanis and Libyans should add our names to the list of African Americans demanding reparations.
 

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Washington:
Pakistan has played on both sides of the field in Afghanistan, contributing to the Taliban's success, a senior US senator has reminded his colleagues, a day after Washington announced plans to withdraw all troops from the war-torn Asian country by September 11.

Chairman of Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Jack Reed, on the Senate floor Thursday afternoon, said "a crucial factor contributing immensely to the Taliban's success" has been the inability of the US to "eliminate the sanctuary the Taliban was granted in Pakistan."

Referring to a recent study, Reed said the Taliban sanctuary in Pakistan and state support from organisations, like Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), have been essential to their war effort and the US'' failure to undermine this safe haven may be Washington's most significant mistake of the war.

"As the (congressionally mandated) Afghan Study Group noted, these sanctuaries are essential to the viability of the insurgency. Additionally, Pakistan's ISI aided and abetted the Taliban while opportunistically cooperating with the United States," Reed said.

A Brookings scholar, Reed said as per the assessment in 2018, Pakistan provided direct military and intelligence aid resulting in the deaths of US soldiers, Afghan security personnel and civilians, plus significant destabilisation of Afghanistan.

"This support of the Taliban runs counter to Pakistani cooperation with the United States, including as they have, allowing the use of airspace and other infrastructure for which the United States provided significant funding," he said.

"As the Afghan Study Group noted, Pakistan has played both sides of the field. These dynamics further play out against the complex environment in Pakistan which has implications for the national security of the United States, its allies and partners," he said, adding that Pakistan is simultaneously fragile and armed with nuclear weapons, making its vulnerability particularly dangerous.

"To add to this toxic mix, Pakistan is in a long-standing battle with its neighbour India which is also armed with nuclear weapons," Reed said.

The Senator said Pakistan and India have long been involved in a battle of power in South Asia.

"While bogged down politically and militarily in daily crises in Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States, over multiple administrations, has been unable to focus the necessary attention on Pakistan. Therefore, these problems have only gotten worse," he said.

The senator said another factor behind the troop pullout from Afghanistan was shaped by the US and its coalition partners inability to develop an Afghan government that could gain the confidence of the people, especially beyond the cities, and provide basic services including security, education, health care, and justice.

During a televised address to the nation on Wednesday, President Biden said that keeping thousands of troops grounded and concentrated in just one country at a cost of billions each year made "little sense" to him.

He said all US troops would be withdrawn from the strife-torn country by September 11 to end America's longest war that has cost trillions of dollars and the lives of over 2,400 American soldiers.

The US and the Taliban signed a landmark deal in Doha on February 29, 2020 to bring lasting peace in war-torn Afghanistan and allow US troops to return home from America's longest war.

Under the US-Taliban pact signed in Doha, Qatar, the US agreed to withdraw all its soldiers from Afghanistan in 14 months.






OFFICIAL source : https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/re...ision-to-withdraw-all-forces-from-afghanistan
What a terrible rant, it's Pakistan's fault, wait we are also at fault, the Afghan government is stupid, it's too late now, what about the future, wait what was the topic again?

Senator Reed just go visit Dunkin Donuts, have a one and a coffee and forget about this. We've all moved on now.
 

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Washington:
Pakistan has played on both sides of the field in Afghanistan, contributing to the Taliban's success, a senior US senator has reminded his colleagues, a day after Washington announced plans to withdraw all troops from the war-torn Asian country by September 11.

Chairman of Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Jack Reed, on the Senate floor Thursday afternoon, said "a crucial factor contributing immensely to the Taliban's success" has been the inability of the US to "eliminate the sanctuary the Taliban was granted in Pakistan."

Referring to a recent study, Reed said the Taliban sanctuary in Pakistan and state support from organisations, like Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), have been essential to their war effort and the US'' failure to undermine this safe haven may be Washington's most significant mistake of the war.

"As the (congressionally mandated) Afghan Study Group noted, these sanctuaries are essential to the viability of the insurgency. Additionally, Pakistan's ISI aided and abetted the Taliban while opportunistically cooperating with the United States," Reed said.

A Brookings scholar, Reed said as per the assessment in 2018, Pakistan provided direct military and intelligence aid resulting in the deaths of US soldiers, Afghan security personnel and civilians, plus significant destabilisation of Afghanistan.

"This support of the Taliban runs counter to Pakistani cooperation with the United States, including as they have, allowing the use of airspace and other infrastructure for which the United States provided significant funding," he said.

"As the Afghan Study Group noted, Pakistan has played both sides of the field. These dynamics further play out against the complex environment in Pakistan which has implications for the national security of the United States, its allies and partners," he said, adding that Pakistan is simultaneously fragile and armed with nuclear weapons, making its vulnerability particularly dangerous.

"To add to this toxic mix, Pakistan is in a long-standing battle with its neighbour India which is also armed with nuclear weapons," Reed said.

The Senator said Pakistan and India have long been involved in a battle of power in South Asia.

"While bogged down politically and militarily in daily crises in Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States, over multiple administrations, has been unable to focus the necessary attention on Pakistan. Therefore, these problems have only gotten worse," he said.

The senator said another factor behind the troop pullout from Afghanistan was shaped by the US and its coalition partners inability to develop an Afghan government that could gain the confidence of the people, especially beyond the cities, and provide basic services including security, education, health care, and justice.

During a televised address to the nation on Wednesday, President Biden said that keeping thousands of troops grounded and concentrated in just one country at a cost of billions each year made "little sense" to him.

He said all US troops would be withdrawn from the strife-torn country by September 11 to end America's longest war that has cost trillions of dollars and the lives of over 2,400 American soldiers.

The US and the Taliban signed a landmark deal in Doha on February 29, 2020 to bring lasting peace in war-torn Afghanistan and allow US troops to return home from America's longest war.

Under the US-Taliban pact signed in Doha, Qatar, the US agreed to withdraw all its soldiers from Afghanistan in 14 months.






OFFICIAL source : https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/re...ision-to-withdraw-all-forces-from-afghanistan
:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 

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The presence Zionist owned Western Military in Afghanistan had four strategic reasons.

1. Encompassing Iran on its eastern, western and southern flanks. A pretext to their intended war on Iran.

2. To destabilize and dismember Pakistan, in order to neutralize the only Muslim Country that possess nuclear weapons and has an effective delivery system.

3. To encompass China on its Western flank and to spawn terrorists from Afghanistan to the Chinese Xingjiang Province.

4. Establishing presence in Central Asia to destabilize Russia, using terrorists it would spawn from the Central Asian Republics.

One would know this, had they bothered to study the Zionist Agenda and how they took control and full ownership of the West.
 

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Laying the ground work for sanctions, to save face. Everyone in the region hedged, down to the common Afghan. Afghanistan, under the current government, was and still is a sanctuary for Indian sponsored fighters against Pakistan. The last few years, Pakistan trying to bring the Talibs to the table. Pakistan even made overtures to Ghani to support the peace process, so that an enduring peace can be reached, and Afghanistan does not end up in a civil war.
 
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The Taliban should always have been enemy to Pakistan - with or without USA. The TTP is similar to Afghan Taliban except that, in my humble opinion, the TTP thinks of itself as part of a global "jihadi" movement whereas the Afghan Taliban want to stick within their borders.

If you read this article thread of mine you will see that the Afghan Taliban and the TTP are same :



The Westerners leaving Afghanistan into the hands of the Taliban don't really have the welfare of Afghans in mind.



I too believe that Pakistan and Russia should partner on Afghanistan. Perhaps India too.
Perhaps India not.
 

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Washington:
Pakistan has played on both sides of the field in Afghanistan, contributing to the Taliban's success, a senior US senator has reminded his colleagues, a day after Washington announced plans to withdraw all troops from the war-torn Asian country by September 11.

Chairman of Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Jack Reed, on the Senate floor Thursday afternoon, said "a crucial factor contributing immensely to the Taliban's success" has been the inability of the US to "eliminate the sanctuary the Taliban was granted in Pakistan."

Referring to a recent study, Reed said the Taliban sanctuary in Pakistan and state support from organisations, like Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), have been essential to their war effort and the US'' failure to undermine this safe haven may be Washington's most significant mistake of the war.

"As the (congressionally mandated) Afghan Study Group noted, these sanctuaries are essential to the viability of the insurgency. Additionally, Pakistan's ISI aided and abetted the Taliban while opportunistically cooperating with the United States," Reed said.

A Brookings scholar, Reed said as per the assessment in 2018, Pakistan provided direct military and intelligence aid resulting in the deaths of US soldiers, Afghan security personnel and civilians, plus significant destabilisation of Afghanistan.

"This support of the Taliban runs counter to Pakistani cooperation with the United States, including as they have, allowing the use of airspace and other infrastructure for which the United States provided significant funding," he said.

"As the Afghan Study Group noted, Pakistan has played both sides of the field. These dynamics further play out against the complex environment in Pakistan which has implications for the national security of the United States, its allies and partners," he said, adding that Pakistan is simultaneously fragile and armed with nuclear weapons, making its vulnerability particularly dangerous.

"To add to this toxic mix, Pakistan is in a long-standing battle with its neighbour India which is also armed with nuclear weapons," Reed said.

The Senator said Pakistan and India have long been involved in a battle of power in South Asia.

"While bogged down politically and militarily in daily crises in Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States, over multiple administrations, has been unable to focus the necessary attention on Pakistan. Therefore, these problems have only gotten worse," he said.

The senator said another factor behind the troop pullout from Afghanistan was shaped by the US and its coalition partners inability to develop an Afghan government that could gain the confidence of the people, especially beyond the cities, and provide basic services including security, education, health care, and justice.

During a televised address to the nation on Wednesday, President Biden said that keeping thousands of troops grounded and concentrated in just one country at a cost of billions each year made "little sense" to him.

He said all US troops would be withdrawn from the strife-torn country by September 11 to end America's longest war that has cost trillions of dollars and the lives of over 2,400 American soldiers.

The US and the Taliban signed a landmark deal in Doha on February 29, 2020 to bring lasting peace in war-torn Afghanistan and allow US troops to return home from America's longest war.

Under the US-Taliban pact signed in Doha, Qatar, the US agreed to withdraw all its soldiers from Afghanistan in 14 months.






OFFICIAL source : https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/re...ision-to-withdraw-all-forces-from-afghanistan
Of course we did that. We don't deny it.
But Why we did that? Because USA was in Afghanistan with full military might to target Pakistan. We did what was in our interest.
We love cholesterol. Tastes good.
 

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Everyone in US knows that Pak helped Taliban for its own strategic purpose. Once US is completely out of Afghanistan, it will be free to take full revenge in terms of sanctions, no IMF loans, FATF etc etc
 

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We will. No doubt about it. We made the mistake of allying with the US during Cold War. We had reasons and that was unfortunate. Now is the time to rectify past mistakes. All regional nations have to come together with regards to Afghanistan.
Considering Qatar’s track record of mediation on the Afghan peace process, and their friendly relations with Iran, they could keep Iranian and Shia interests secure without the need for Iran to send proxies to Afghanistan after the pullout of westerners.
 

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What a terrible rant, it's Pakistan's fault, wait we are also at fault, the Afghan government is stupid, it's too late now, what about the future, wait what was the topic again?

Senator Reed just go visit Dunkin Donuts, have a one and a coffee and forget about this. We've all moved on now.
they have slapped you a penalty of 38 Billion by putting you in FATF. You may want to sack the generals who did this
 

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