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Former Under Secretary of State in the Bush Administration, Nicholas Burns has rubbished Pakistan's request for a civilian nuclear deal similar to India's saying," The AQ Khan network was the mother of all nuclear technology proliferators and Islamabad had some chutzpah to even make such a request."

Burns, co -chair of the project by the Center for a New American Security that rolled out a report titled 'Natural Allies: A Blueprint for the Future of US-India Relations', said, "It is no secret that the Pakistan government and the senior Pakistani government officials in town (for the US-Pakistan Strategic Dialogue) have been complaining that the Bush administration and now the Obama administration have not accorded the same opportunities to Pakistan of a civil nuclear agreement as we did with India."


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Burns, now a professor at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government where he teaches the practice of diplomacy and international politics, noted, "It's no secret why the Bush administration did not offer Islamabad a similar deal."

"Pakistan is a leading source--a leading contributor--in the past through the A Q Khan network of proliferation of nuclear materials in the world and India has been a responsible steward of nuclear materials," he said.

Thus, he argued that "we cannot think that these countries can be treated identically and we really have to separate our interests short and long-term."

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Pakistan's concerns about India in Afghanistan are exaggerated


Burns also dismissed the whining over India's involvement in Afghanistan as a threat to Pakistan's interests and asserted, "Pakistan's concerns about India's presence in Afghanistan have been grossly exaggerated."

"I see an India that is acting in infrastructure, in development and political support for the Karzai government," he said, and while acknowledging that "obviously, India has to be sensitive to the fact that Pakistan lives next door and has vital interests in Afghanistan," argued that "the problem I have with the government in Islamabad is it's not credible in asserting that somehow India is a threat to Pakistan's vital national interests."

Burns said, "I don't see that, I don't accept it, I never did and I probably never will."

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Okay, Pakistan shouldn't seek nuclear deal but in that case USA shouldn't use routes for their supplies in Afghanistan via Pakistan & shouldn't have quoted this " Either you are with us or against us" and there was no need of that prestigious honor for Pakistan by declaring Pakistan as a "major non NATO ally"
The fact remains an open secret that US knows the importance of Pakistan and there fore will not adhere to any such dogmas of people who are on pay roll of a certain state which is all about " why don't you look at me, my economy is booming"

Desi man nice comeback, i can see that your confinement period didn't go in waste :)
 
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Pakistanis - please answer me one question.

Why is it that you constantly seek parity with India and expect to be treated the same way? How come you don't seek parity with China (similar size to India etc.) or with Russia or with Saudi Arabia?

Kindly attempt to answer this question honestly.
 

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Even if Pakistan get the deal how it gonna pay for it..Second Pakistan energy demand is not as high as India.Pakistan energy requirement will be fulfill by construction of few dam.

@above.. Good Question..One side Pakistan don't want to compare itself with India on other side it want every thing what India get.
 

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Pakistanis - please answer me one question.

Why is it that you constantly seek parity with India and expect to be treated the same way? How come you don't seek parity with China (similar size to India etc.) or with Russia or with Saudi Arabia?

Kindly attempt to answer this question honestly.

Answer is simple china is a friend, Russia is far away, Saudi arab is also a friend
its india alnow who is enemy. should we forget Mukti bahni and 1971 war .
should we for get the saying of indian leadership and literature being published in India since 1947.
should we forget Indian Military leadership boasted that COLD START is Pakistan specific

* Nehru in his anguish once said” sooner or latter India will have to function as a unified country(1947)
 

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Okay, Pakistan shouldn't seek nuclear deal but in that case USA shouldn't use routes for their supplies in Afghanistan via Pakistan & shouldn't have quoted this " Either you are with us or against us" and there was no need of that prestigious honor for Pakistan by declaring Pakistan as a "major non NATO ally"
The fact remains an open secret that US knows the importance of Pakistan and there fore will not adhere to any such dogmas of people who are on pay roll of a certain state which is all about " why don't you look at me, my economy is booming"

Desi man nice comeback, i can see that your confinement period didn't go in waste :)


Lol confinement periods have no effect on me, if you confined for the right reason it gives you time to retrospect but if you are kept away for the wrong reasons, it makes your stand even stronger lol
 

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Even if Pakistan get the deal how it gonna pay for it..Second Pakistan energy demand is not as high as India.Pakistan energy requirement will be fulfill by construction of few dam.

so what you imply is that India will not use the expertise for defense purpose?
 

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Pakistanis - please answer me one question.

Why is it that you constantly seek parity with India and expect to be treated the same way? How come you don't seek parity with China (similar size to India etc.) or with Russia or with Saudi Arabia?

Kindly attempt to answer this question honestly.

Or Bangladesh, who is doing better than Pakistan lately.....
 

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Pakistanis - please answer me one question.

Why is it that you constantly seek parity with India and expect to be treated the same way? How come you don't seek parity with China (similar size to India etc.) or with Russia or with Saudi Arabia?

Kindly attempt to answer this question honestly.
Indians or Indians under US flags, please know this that India & Pakistan are rivals & have several disputes, not to mention there is a nuclear environment, both sides have to maintain some balance and if that balance is slightly tilted in ones favor then results can be catastrophic as the dominant side might be tempted to use power to achieve goals(ring any bells? Mooney talk about surgical strikes? post mumbai hoax?) and the weaker side can always resolve to nukes as a retaliation. Even Americans are aware of this fact that the balance of power between two states must be maintained. Secondly allow me to enlighten you on this that Pakistan faces a huge energy deficit & we need alternative sources other than dams to meet our needs, If US doesn't want to assist Pakistan in this matter than it's fine but US shouldn't even try persuade Pakistan to not to procure electricity from Iran.
 
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Indians or Indians under US flags, please know this that India & Pakistan are rivals & have several disputes, not to mention there is a nuclear environment both sides have to maintain some balance and if that balance is slightly tilted in ones favor than results can be catastrophic as the dominant side might be tempted to use power to achieve goals(ring any bells? Surgical strikes post mumbai hoax) and the weaker side can always resolve to nukes as a retaliation. Even Americans are aware of this fact that the balance of power between two states must be maintained. Secondly allow me to enlighten you on this that Pakistan faces a huge energy deficit & we need alternative sources other than dams to meet our needs, If US doesn't want to assist Pakistan in this matter than shouldn't persuade Pakistan to not to procure electricity from Iran

Why not maintain parity with India on economic front, education front, why only nukes?

India have 19 times more FOREX than Pakistan, what are you gonna do about this, may I know?
 

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Only 15 day!!

15 days is the time needed to cripple NATO in afghanistan without supplies tht come frm Pakistan, use Pak sea ports,and high ways!

We are fighting a war USA started! we sacrifised 30000 lives and 3000 soldiers! 50-60 billion$$ worth infra structure and crippled our booming economy!
We arrested Mr A.Q Khan and charged him..... we arrested several TOP ALQAEDA leaders! while usa is negotiating with taliban these days?

And even then if it can do justice and stop discriminatry policies..... then she can go and f*** herself.....
Stop her supplies, support the afghan taliban,realease all fighters frm prison and r..pe her like USSR.

And i bet many countries like china,iran,syria,cuba,russia etc will love to support this cause.
 

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Why not maintain parity with India on economic front, education front, why only nukes?

India have 19 times more FOREX than Pakistan, what are you gonna do about this, may I know?

Ecomonically we cant maintain parity coz of population! 150 million vs 1.1 billion indians?
Try reduction of poverty?
15-17% vs 60% poor under poverty like and 60% of ur middle class tht is slighty above poverty line?
Education.... we are almost on the same level.
Human index?
etc

India has 19 times more forex as well as Loans!?

Ur rant again is not justified coz of ur population and size?

Also stop hidding behind flags of other countries... have some courage and display indian flags unless ur ashamed to be one!
 

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