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Bossman

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Quote from Alan Warner’s article below:

“Equipped with three powerful guns and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles, the F-6 had enough firepower to fight the most rugged adversary aircraft. It flew combat air patrols as well as going in the battle area. In over 650 air defence sorties, the PAF claim the F-6 shot down eight confirmed kills, including Hunters, Su-7s, MiG-21 and an own goal F-6.”


 

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When during 1962 Indo-China War, Nehru asked IAF Chief, about the role, IAF can play in the War. Chief answered: " Jaagday raena, saaday tay na raena"
 

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Whatever you may say, but performance of IAF was exceptional and extraordinary, in 1962 War with China. NO LOSS of any asset. :lol: :lol:

Who told you that??

A bell 47 helicopter was shot down by Chinese forces during the war. One transport aircraft was also shot down
 

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How rude of him to measure you?


Can someone please create a sticky for this man-child and his silly dick-measuring posts? Makes it easier for me to know where to go for a good laugh. Just a suggestion, but do as you like - not my circus and definetly not my monkey.

Yeah, and before people start posting links to the bbc article about indian peepees being to small for condoms, let me just point out that its not mandetory to do that every time someone mentions "dick" 😉.
 

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Oh so now Kaiser Tufail is credible for you... only because he posted the Indian version of breakdown, there's a video in this forum of the pilot filmed soon after he returned from THE mission when he shot down a MiG-21 through a missile attack.
Pilot claims by all sides are always taken with a pinch of salt since there claims are at many exaggerated.
Which is why Tufail did not include it as there was no evidence for it other than pilot claims.
 

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Pilot claims by all sides are always taken with a pinch of salt since there claims are at many exaggerated.
Which is why Tufail did not include it as there was no evidence for it other than pilot claims.
KT's list which you posted before, also contained names of dead or injured Indian pilots which makes it obvious that he was using Indian sources to compile his list.....The MiG-21 kill by the F-6 was also confirmed by other sources besides the shooter pilot.
BTW, India or IAF for example claimed to have shot down several F-104 (Topic at hand)....how many wrecks or other evidence in this regards have they produced so far.....same were quick to release HUD / Gun Camera image of shooting down the unarmed PN Atlantique aircraft.
 

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KT's list which you posted before, also contained names of dead or injured Indian pilots which makes it obvious that he was using Indian sources to compile his list.....The MiG-21 kill by the F-6 was also confirmed by other sources besides the shooter pilot.
BTW, India or IAF for example claimed to have shot down several F-104 (Topic at hand)....how many wrecks or other evidence in this regards have produced so far.....same were quick to release HUD / Gun Camera image of shooting down the unarmed PN Atlantique aircraft.
Not a single non-Pakistani sources have listed MiG-21 kill Claim as confirmed, at best they have listed as a "Pakistani claim".
Even ACIG listed it as an unconfirmed claim.
 

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No doubt a starfighter was a remarkable jet of it's time specially confronting indian jets with it's speed.
But it was a failure in dogfight because of its short wings and high speed it was very less manuervable. Landing this jet on runway even with a big dragchute was a challenge.
Nevertheless the jet was a good interceptor.


at that time speed and altitude was given great importance , the idea was to confront soviet bomber aviation as great priority ...

Not a single non-Pakistani sources have listed MiG-21 kill Claim as confirmed, at best they have listed as a "Pakistani claim".
Even ACIG listed it as an unconfirmed claim.


CIA listed 5 Mig 21 wacked... in 1971

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