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PAF Reveals Bayraktar Akinci, TB-2, WL2 and Establishment of National ISR and Integrated Air Op Center in a Newly Released Video

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IMO, if PAF really wants to threaten Indian air defense and military bases, it should try to eventually import GJ-11 or CH-7 from China. The current UCAV you see are pretty low tech stuff. They are cheap to operate to attack armored vehicles or army groups that have no air protection at all. But if you want to destroy opposing air defense, these things can't harm them. They are generally very slow and carry very little ammunition's. The only thing that can really threaten modern air defense is something like GJ-11 or CH-7. They are extremely stealthy all around and can carry a lot more ammunitions. They can also fly very high and at high subsonic speed. They are the first step to what eventually would replace strategic bombers like B-2.

 

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Hindu American Foundation was one of the lobbies that pushed to stop parts sales to Turkey to produce drones. I guess they foresaw Pakistan purchasing Turkish drones and acted accordingly with Armenian and Greek lobbies.
 

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AKINCI hunter-killer Drone to hit other UCAVs , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships


LETHAL Weapons


-- 250 km SOM-C anti ship Missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 250 km SOM-B Cruise Missile to hit Air Defense Systems like PATRIOT , S300
-- 200 km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN and 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air missiles to hit Attack Helicopters or UCAVs
-- 30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks
-- 16 km UMTAS anti Tank Missile with top attack capability to destroy Tanks
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AİR TO AİR combat CAPABILITY

AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar with Air to Air Missiles for air defense capability to intercept Aircrafts , Attack Helicopters and UCAVs

25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
65 km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
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AIR-TO-GROUND high precision strike CAPABILITY

An 18 AKINCI UCAV battalion can carry 288 MIZRAK anti Tank missiles, each capable of destroying a Tank
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30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks ( 100 kg )
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AKINCI UCAV can carry 8 x KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
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KUZGUN joint strike missile
  • GPS, INS Guidance
  • Independent Guidance Options (INS , LAB, A-INS , IR seeker ,Data Link, mmW Radar)
  • Weight : 100 kg
  • Warhead : 25-60 kg
  • Range : 200 km
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313ghazi

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AKINCI hunter-killer Drone to hit other UCAVs , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships


LETHAL Weapons


-- 250 km SOM-C anti ship Missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 250 km SOM-B Cruise Missile to hit Air Defense Systems like PATRIOT , S300
-- 200 km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN and 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air missiles to hit Attack Helicopters or UCAVs
-- 30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks
-- 16 km UMTAS anti Tank Missile with top attack capability to destroy Tanks
View attachment 824253



AİR TO AİR combat CAPABILITY

AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar with Air to Air Missiles for air defense capability to intercept Aircrafts , Attack Helicopters and UCAVs

25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
65 km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
View attachment 824246



AIR-TO-GROUND high precision strike CAPABILITY

An 18 AKINCI UCAV battalion can carry 288 MIZRAK anti Tank missiles, each capable of destroying a Tank
View attachment 824248


30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks ( 100 kg )
View attachment 824252




AKINCI UCAV can carry 8 x KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
View attachment 824258

KUZGUN joint strike missile
  • GPS, INS Guidance
  • Independent Guidance Options (INS , LAB, A-INS , IR seeker ,Data Link, mmW Radar)
  • Weight : 100 kg
  • Warhead : 25-60 kg
  • Range : 200 km
View attachment 824257

What a beast! magnificent.
 

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AKINCI hunter-killer Drone to hit other UCAVs , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships


LETHAL Weapons


-- 250 km SOM-C anti ship Missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 250 km SOM-B Cruise Missile to hit Air Defense Systems like PATRIOT , S300
-- 200 km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN and 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air missiles to hit Attack Helicopters or UCAVs
-- 30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks
-- 16 km UMTAS anti Tank Missile with top attack capability to destroy Tanks
View attachment 824253



AİR TO AİR combat CAPABILITY

AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar with Air to Air Missiles for air defense capability to intercept Aircrafts , Attack Helicopters and UCAVs

25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
65 km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
View attachment 824246



AIR-TO-GROUND high precision strike CAPABILITY

An 18 AKINCI UCAV battalion can carry 288 MIZRAK anti Tank missiles, each capable of destroying a Tank
View attachment 824248


30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks ( 100 kg )
View attachment 824252




AKINCI UCAV can carry 8 x KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
View attachment 824258

KUZGUN joint strike missile
  • GPS, INS Guidance
  • Independent Guidance Options (INS , LAB, A-INS , IR seeker ,Data Link, mmW Radar)
  • Weight : 100 kg
  • Warhead : 25-60 kg
  • Range : 200 km
View attachment 824257
Did Pakistan buy som?
 

tphuang

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AKINCI hunter-killer Drone to hit other UCAVs , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships


LETHAL Weapons


-- 250 km SOM-C anti ship Missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 250 km SOM-B Cruise Missile to hit Air Defense Systems like PATRIOT , S300
-- 200 km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN and 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air missiles to hit Attack Helicopters or UCAVs
-- 30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks
-- 16 km UMTAS anti Tank Missile with top attack capability to destroy Tanks
View attachment 824253



AİR TO AİR combat CAPABILITY

AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar with Air to Air Missiles for air defense capability to intercept Aircrafts , Attack Helicopters and UCAVs

25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
65 km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
View attachment 824246



AIR-TO-GROUND high precision strike CAPABILITY

An 18 AKINCI UCAV battalion can carry 288 MIZRAK anti Tank missiles, each capable of destroying a Tank
View attachment 824248


30 km MAM-T laser guided Bomb to hit even moving Tanks ( 100 kg )
View attachment 824252




AKINCI UCAV can carry 8 x KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems like AKASH , PANTSIR, TOR-M2 and BUK or Warships
View attachment 824258

KUZGUN joint strike missile
  • GPS, INS Guidance
  • Independent Guidance Options (INS , LAB, A-INS , IR seeker ,Data Link, mmW Radar)
  • Weight : 100 kg
  • Warhead : 25-60 kg
  • Range : 200 km
View attachment 824257

It's a slow moving/maneuvering turboprop UCAV with very large RCS. Inherently not all that survivable. Why do people keep saying you want to use this in A2A roles or against advanced SAMs? It's just ridiculous.
 

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It's a slow moving/maneuvering turboprop UCAV with very large RCS. Inherently not all that survivable. Why do people keep saying you want to use this in A2A roles or against advanced SAMs? It's just ridiculous.

not for dogfight and not against Fighter Jets

but defense role in Pakistani soil
AKINCI UCAV can hit AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters ,Utility Helicopters and MQ-9 UCAVs


btw advanced SAMs ?
AKINCI UCAV even will carry 200km KUZGUN joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems

also Turkiye plans to use 150 km TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missile to be carried by AKINCI UCAVs

medium range SAMs have no any chance against AKINCI UCAVs
 
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not for dogfight and not against Fighter Jets

but defense role in Pakistani soil
AKINCI UCAV can hit AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters ,Utility Helicopters and MQ-9 UCAVs


btw advanced SAMs ?
AKINCI UCAV even will carry 200km KUZGUN joint strike Missiles with IIR seeker to hit Air Defense Systems

also Turkiye plans to use 150 km TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missile to be carried by AKINCI UCAVs

medium range SAMs have no any chance against AKINCI UCAVs

The reality is that it's a slow moving and maneuvering UCAV with no stealth. It will get tracked very easily and there is a lot of time for enemy to scramble a jet to intercept it. Wars are not fought in vacuum. It's amazing the kind of stuff I read sometimes.

UCAVs are great when you can sneak in there with no aircraft. But when there are aircraft, it's in trouble.

It's a lot easier for air defense to detect a large gunship looking UAV vs a small UCAV that only carries a few AGMs.
 

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The reality is that it's a slow moving and maneuvering UCAV with no stealth. It will get tracked very easily and there is a lot of time for enemy to scramble a jet to intercept it. Wars are not fought in vacuum. It's amazing the kind of stuff I read sometimes.

Do you think Pakistan will use AKINCI UCAV to attack on military targets in Indian soil ?

AKINCI UCAV is for defense role in Pakistani soil to stop land invasion by Indian Army
and UCAVs will operate under Pakistani Air force umbrella , ( F16 , JF-17 , J10 , HQ-9 )



It's a lot easier for air defense to detect a large gunship looking UAV vs a small UCAV that only carries a few AGMs.

better worry about Indian Army ( Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,MLRS,Helicopters and mobile SAMs ) if they enter Pakistan

TB-2 and AKINCI UCAVs easly can destroy all of them ...
 

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The reality is that it's a slow moving and maneuvering UCAV with no stealth. It will get tracked very easily and there is a lot of time for enemy to scramble a jet to intercept it. Wars are not fought in vacuum. It's amazing the kind of stuff I read sometimes.

UCAVs are great when you can sneak in there with no aircraft. But when there are aircraft, it's in trouble.

It's a lot easier for air defense to detect a large gunship looking UAV vs a small UCAV that only carries a few AGMs.

Do you think Pakistan will use AKINCI UCAV to attack on military targets in Indian soil ?

AKINCI UCAV is for defense role in Pakistani soil to stop land invasion by Indian Army
and UCAVs will operate under Pakistani Air force umbrella , ( F16 , JF-17 , J10 , HQ-9 )





better worry about Indian Army ( Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,MLRS,Helicopters and mobile SAMs ) if they enter Pakistan

TB-2 and AKINCI UCAVs easly can destroy all of them ...
IMO the PAF would use the Akıncı for peacetime ELINT and SIGINT. For widespread and around-the-clock coverage, it's probably cheaper for the PAF to operate the Akıncı than manned aircraft. You also eliminate the issue of crew fatigue when flying 20+ hours per sortie.

But for a true wartime strike capability, the PAF will need a jet-based UCAV.
 

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