But the question is will US sell it to Pakistan, they do sell Sniper pods to PAF but that's pretty much it."C" versions will give longer legs compared to other aircrafts in PAF's current inventory. More modernized EW/ECM pods are most welcome.
But the question is will US sell it to Pakistan, they do sell Sniper pods to PAF but that's pretty much it."C" versions will give longer legs compared to other aircrafts in PAF's current inventory. More modernized EW/ECM pods are most welcome.
In a SINGLE engagement that the PAF planned and executed with several assets and the best of the best of the PAF, not regular line pilots from ordinary squadrons.
The PAF also retreated the moment the IAF put nearly 20 Su-30MKIs and MiG-29UPGs in the air. Out of the 5 REK bombs dropped, 4 were recovered intact without having exploded. Only a nincompoop will say that was also done deliberately. 5 AMRAAMs were fired at Su-30MKIs, all missing.
Meanwhile, on the night of Feb 26, nearly a dozen Mirage-2000s ingressed INTO Pakistani airspace unchallenged and dropped weapons. So, while I don't expect a Pakistani forum to have any context, the facts are that shooting down a single Bison doesn't prove much.
Next time, be sure that the IAF won't be following RoEs that prevent it from firing BVRAAMs at PAF targets from across the border, the way the PAF did.
A war is not based on a single mission. Attrition will occur, several missions will fail and others will succeed. Only the force that has the depth, resources and the courage to sustain losses and continue will win a war. One battle alone doesn't matter. The real question would be how many days would PAF and IAF be able to sustain a full fledged war? It's clear which force has the greater resources at it's disposal, both of it's own as well as national resources.
Block 52+ is possible if both parties are happy with payment details. Cant say about Block-72.But the question is will US sell it to Pakistan, they do sell Sniper pods to PAF but that's pretty much it.
That's the whole issue, I don't think PAF wants those F-16' block 52 bad enough to pay full price for them, Block 70's 18 with possible upgrade the existing fleet to F-16V might make them think twice.Block 52+ is possible if both parties are happy with payment details. Cant say about Block-72.
Lols....In a SINGLE engagement that the PAF planned and executed with several assets and the best of the best of the PAF, not regular line pilots from ordinary squadrons.
The PAF also retreated the moment the IAF put nearly 20 Su-30MKIs and MiG-29UPGs in the air. Out of the 5 REK bombs dropped, 4 were recovered intact without having exploded. Only a nincompoop will say that was also done deliberately. 5 AMRAAMs were fired at Su-30MKIs, all missing.
Meanwhile, on the night of Feb 26, nearly a dozen Mirage-2000s ingressed INTO Pakistani airspace unchallenged and dropped weapons. So, while I don't expect a Pakistani forum to have any context, the facts are that shooting down a single Bison doesn't prove much.
Next time, be sure that the IAF won't be following RoEs that prevent it from firing BVRAAMs at PAF targets from across the border, the way the PAF did.
A war is not based on a single mission. Attrition will occur, several missions will fail and others will succeed. Only the force that has the depth, resources and the courage to sustain losses and continue will win a war. One battle alone doesn't matter. The real question would be how many days would PAF and IAF be able to sustain a full fledged war? It's clear which force has the greater resources at it's disposal, both of it's own as well as national resources.
Sale approved already but issue is payment.Cant say about Block-72.
If you read the history many times sides with fewer resources and manpower overpowered and defeated a numerically superior opponent both in terms of manpower and resources. For this, you have to include the most important factor that decides the outcome of any clash i.e. morale and human resolve to take it to the end not fleeing the field without achieving the objectives. True historians will always write the fleeing party lost the clash, only the ones blinded with patriotism will write it as a victory and award medals to the fleeing. After all, it takes a man's courage to admit a defeat and gather what's left from the beating to prepare for the next round.In a SINGLE engagement that the PAF planned and executed with several assets and the best of the best of the PAF, not regular line pilots from ordinary squadrons.
The PAF also retreated the moment the IAF put nearly 20 Su-30MKIs and MiG-29UPGs in the air. Out of the 5 REK bombs dropped, 4 were recovered intact without having exploded. Only a nincompoop will say that was also done deliberately. 5 AMRAAMs were fired at Su-30MKIs, all missing.
Meanwhile, on the night of Feb 26, nearly a dozen Mirage-2000s ingressed INTO Pakistani airspace unchallenged and dropped weapons. So, while I don't expect a Pakistani forum to have any context, the facts are that shooting down a single Bison doesn't prove much.
Next time, be sure that the IAF won't be following RoEs that prevent it from firing BVRAAMs at PAF targets from across the border, the way the PAF did.
A war is not based on a single mission. Attrition will occur, several missions will fail and others will succeed. Only the force that has the depth, resources and the courage to sustain losses and continue will win a war. One battle alone doesn't matter. The real question would be how many days would PAF and IAF be able to sustain a full fledged war? It's clear which force has the greater resources at it's disposal, both of it's own as well as national resources.
indian inventory wrong on 4 accounts
su30 mki is 260
Rafale 12,received
mig 27 none all.phased out last year
mig 21 bison 54 only now
Didn't bother reading after the first line which itself is a horrendous misconception about PAF. All PAF fighter squadrons are flown by the best pilots, maybe IAF has ordinary squadrons and ordinary pilots, not PAF. Even though different aircraft types are operated by PAF, all the pilots have mastery over the type of aircraft they fly, be it F-16 on ADA or JF-17 and Mirage on strike sorties.In a SINGLE engagement that the PAF planned and executed with several assets and the best of the best of the PAF, not regular line pilots from ordinary squadrons.
More BS. 54 MIG-21s operated by 6 squadrons?
I know it's difficult for you to stomach but the wiki article has numbers,from 2019 ie 113 mig21 bison in 6 sqds,
the phased out programme was one squadron to be mothballed annually to 2025 ..
replaced by 2 sqds of tejas mark 1
and 2 new sqds,of Rafale. in nos I mean .
I know it's difficult for you to stomach but the wiki article has numbers,from 2019 ie 113 mig21 bison in 6 sqds,
the phased out programme was one squadron to be mothballed annually to 2025 ..
replaced by 2 sqds of tejas mark 1
and 2 new sqds,of Rafale. in nos I mean .