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Osama not a terrorist: Ex-ISI chief

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  1. Gryphon

    Gryphon SENIOR MEMBER

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    31 August 2013

    ‘Mullah Omar is Pak’s trump card, Nawaz can’t ignore K-issue’

    Islamabad: Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was not a terrorist, but a sensitive person who cared for the Muslim Umma and what was happening to them in the post-9/11 period, said Pakistan’s former Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt.Gen. (Retired) Hamid Gul.

    In an interview given to Dunya News, Lt. Gen. Gul did not admit, but said that if the accusation by the U.S.that Pakistan, and specifically the ISI, had supported Osama bin Laden and his terror activities, which eventually resulted in the launching of the global war on terror in the last few months of 2001, then it is a feather in the ISI’s cap.

    “If that was the case, it proves that the ISI is a successful organisation, and we do not see Osama bin Laden as a terrorist,” he said.

    Gul also described Taliban leader Mullah Omar as Pakistan’s “trump card”.
    “If we (Pakistan) did not have influence with the Afghan Taliban, do you think that the United States would be asking Pakistan to mediate with the Afghan Taliban for the post-2014 scenario. Instead, they would be talking to India, “ he said.

    “I am repeatedly telling you that Pakistan is at an important stage in history and we need to use and play to our strengths. India is on the wrong side of geography and history,” he added.

    Lt. Gen. Gul further said that fencing along the Line of Control (LoC) that separates Pakistan and India should be torn down immediately, and criticised Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on what he termed his pro-India stance and utterrances.

    “Instead, Sharif is keeping quiet, while our (Pakistan) soldiers are being killed,” he said in apparent reference to the recent alleged ceasefire violations by India along the LoC.

    He questioned the need for Sharif to say that Pakistan and India have the same culture.
    “That is absolute rubbish. India worships the cow and we eat its meat,” he said while pointedly highlighting the differences between the two countries.

    When told that Sharif has the mandate of the people of Pakistan to look for ways to establish and enhance peace with India, Lt. Gen. Gul outrightly rejected this by saying, “Who gave him (Nawaz Sharif) this mandate? This is a lie. Pakistan never voted Nawaz Sharif into office for him to put Kashmir on the backburner, and to promote ties with India”.

    “He (Nawaz Sharif) cannot ignore the core issue of Kashmir. The Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) has a legitimate right to pick up arms against India. It is their freedom struggle,” he concluded.

    Osama not a terrorist: Ex-ISI chief - Rising Kashmir
     
  2. illusion8

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    :yahoo: :yahoo:

    Bravo.

    Looks like he finally lost it - he was off from a while back but seems to just have teetered off the edge of the sanity hill.

    Add Kashmir to the rant and all other nonsense gets sidelined :lol:
     
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    Hamid Gul is a total nut.

    He should compete with Zaid Hamid to see who is the bigger idiot.
     
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    so he was hero of Hollywood or Bollywood ?
     
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    ...............................:lol:
     
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    Well this guy was ISI chief.....No wonder pakistan is in the mess right now.....

    My dear friend.... Zaid Hamid is a self proclaimed "Defence Analyst"...... But our man is an EX ISI chief.....
     
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    Idea toh durust hai. :tup:
    But how will they do it? By butting heads against each other? Like Goats?
    :lol:
     
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    One more evidence of Pakistan being neck deep in fanning terrorism across the world.
     
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    Obama is not a terrorist?

    You don't say!!!
     
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    SwAggeR SENIOR MEMBER

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    Hero of Riyadhwood.:rofl:
     
  11. GR!FF!N

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    that explains your terrorism problem as well as ours.. :lol:

    some flashback......


    On August 8, 1998 the Taliban assisted by Al-Qaeda, attacked the Afghan city of Mazari Sharif killing 11 Iranian diplomats and journalists along with thousands of Afghan civilians, in what was considered an attack motivated by takfir against Shia.

    as well as activities of this group....

    Jundallah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    How dare people call him terrorist, he was a liberator of their generation, who also worked as a building demolisher.
     
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    Agree with Gen. Gul
     
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    I once got an infraction here for saying ISI supports terrorism.

    I believe @Irfan Baloch was the mod
     
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    True. He was a belly dancer.