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Opinion: Russia will outlast Ukraine in Donbas revolution war

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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An illogical piece of logic by yourself...
 

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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The reality is that Russian superiority in firepower is so overwhelming that the idea of 'heavy' Russian losses are laughable. Stand well back, crush the enemy with overwhelming firepower, then go forward and pick up the pieces.
 

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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Putin says he wants Russia to make smartphones. He seems to find the way to free Russia from western imperialism.
 

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Russian casualties in the new phase of the war are probably less then 1/10th.

its estimated that Russia outguns the ukies in the artillery department by 50-100 - 1~

And this is an artillery war, with no Russian hurry to take territory. but slowly and methodically anahillating the ukie army. This while the ukies are in total war mode with nato support, and have suicidal political orders to fight for every inch of territory, regardless of the losses. Russia is in there with an expeditionary army. Not even their full professional army has been engaged.

This whole propaganda of Russians taking massive casualties blablabal is another western delusion that time will expose
 

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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As usual shit thread by shit thinker
 

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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I don't think Russia doesn't care about its citizens to consider them expendables. I don't they want to say "Oh we can afford to lose 10 million soldiers".

But I liked the article.
 

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Russian casualties in the new phase of the war are probably less then 1/10th.

its estimated that Russia outguns the ukies in the artillery department by 50-100 - 1~

And this is an artillery war, with no Russian hurry to take territory. but slowly and methodically anahillating the ukie army. This while the ukies are in total war mode with nato support, and have suicidal political orders to fight for every inch of territory, regardless of the losses. Russia is in there with an expeditionary army. Not even their full professional army has been engaged.

This whole propaganda of Russians taking massive casualties blablabal is another western delusion that time will expose
The Russians have total air superiority and overwhelming artillery superiority. I heard, if I remember the figure correctly, that the Russians are firing 70,000 shells per day. The Ukrainian figure is infinitesimly smaller. Exactly how are these 'massive' casualties being inflicted?
 

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Because Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, 147 million compared to 37 million, not counting rebels, Russia can afford to lose 10 million men but Ukraine cannot afford to lose 10 million men. So unless tens of millions of American and British men get their lazy fat arses off their couches and go to Donbas to fight for Anglo Saxon hegemony then Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine and therefore retake Donbas which is called the heart of Russia.




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The Russians don't have 10 million troops unless mobilized but its an unpopular war hence no mobilization.
 

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Russia vs Ukraine (alone) would have been a cake walk for the Russians had it not been for NATO/ US support. Ukraine is in no position to take anything back from the Ruskies militarily. The only thing western support for Ukraine is going to achieve is keeping the pot simmering and causing more casualties to Ukrainian civilians as the Russians grow more desperate.
 

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Russia vs Ukraine (alone) would have been a cake walk for the Russians had it not been for NATO/ US support. Ukraine is in no position to take anything back from the Ruskies militarily. The only thing western support for Ukraine is going to achieve is keeping the pot simmering and causing more casualties to Ukrainian civilians as the Russians grow more desperate.
The Ukrainians know what they are asking for with weaponry to keep fighting instead of surrendering even at the cost of civilian lives. Ukraine are in a position to take on the Russians militarily with western support, that's for sure. They just keep killing the Russians until they can't handle it anymore. Russian troops in occupied areas makes it easier to target them since they are in static defense which means being hit by artillery, mortars, snipers, drones, loitering munitions, etc.
 

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Russia vs Ukraine (alone) would have been a cake walk for the Russians had it not been for NATO/ US support. Ukraine is in no position to take anything back from the Ruskies militarily. The only thing western support for Ukraine is going to achieve is keeping the pot simmering and causing more casualties to Ukrainian civilians as the Russians grow more desperate.
If that had been a cake walk, they would have been able to completed the war in the first 10-20 days, when the US and NATO only ever supplied the Ukrainian with Javelin and NLAW and stuff like that.

In fact the inaction from NATO for the first 5 days (4 and a half to be exact) is simply toward the fact that they think Ukraine is going to fold and there are no point in helping them. But then 120 days later, the war is still going on.

What's more. this war is still in invasion stage, not even reached occupation state. That is when Russia really need to put resource into, they need roughly 4 times the number of troop to occupy the land they already had taken, and they need tons of supply to get them occupation force supported. That is a even more massive undertaking than what they are doing now. Unless for whatever reason Ukraine decided not to raise an insurgency on Russian occupied land even after they die fighting them in the last 120 days. If you think the progress is slow now, wait until IED started to appear on the road behind enemy line.......
 

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