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Yet Iran is doing a lot better than Pakistan in education, science, economy, healthcare, HDI, sports, etc
I hear this bullshat all the time. I really like Iranians and had friends from Tehran in university about just about the time of revolution in 1979. But let me tell you. A typical Pakistan will chew a Iranian by his ar*se. The only reason you guys can feed yourselfs and brag like Saudi's is you have black gold and sweet gas. What you export as $10 profit we have to buy as $10 billion loss. If we had the oil and gas today Pakistan would have been third or fourth most potent global power. We actually have to work to make a living and not survive off oil/gas like Iran, Saudia, Kuwait etc.

Given the staggering oil wealth you got since 1950s Iran should have been the Germany of West Asia. Instead ....
Raheel sharif is leading a force
Raheel leads a force primarily serving Israeli, American and Saudi's royal family interests and intended solely against Iran.
 

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i have told what is reality sir . so many people are day dreaming here / 1973 was last chance which was missed now forget israel is today more capable to tackle . just compare economy of pakistan and israel . to whom we are fooling ? they have 180bn$ in pocket what we have kashkol ?
Is reality static? Reality is dynamic, it can change and I firmly believe that the common man is the driver of change. We are where we are because we resign ourselves to "fate".

Let me give you a really poor example.

TLP rioted in our country, the government reacted violently - The French ambassador was not removed, yet the EU is reviewing our trading terms. Whether the change was positive or negative, those groups of common people, forced a change through sheer willpower.

If they can drive negative change, why can't the rest of us drive positive change? Kasur in Pakistan is an international hub in peadophillia and child por....aphy. Why can't the people of that City lockdown the streets and block the roads and protest until the police and the government take meaningful action against these people, who i believe have political patronage?

Karachi is the biggest city in the country and large parts of it are a shithole. Why can't 20 million people protest, block the city, block the ports - until the government is forced to take action?

This will have positive and negative impact, but it will ultimately make a change. I won't shackle myself to this artificial limits of so called reality. You might think more fool me for trying - but so be it. I work in IT, i get bored easily. :)
 

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Is reality static? Reality is dynamic, it can change and I firmly believe that the common man is the driver of change. We are where we are because we resign ourselves to "fate".

Let me give you a really poor example.

TLP rioted in our country, the government reacted violently - The French ambassador was not removed, yet the EU is reviewing our trading terms. Whether the change was positive or negative, those groups of common people, forced a change through sheer willpower.

If they can drive negative change, why can't the rest of us drive positive change? Kasur in Pakistan is an international hub in peadophillia and child por....aphy. Why can't the people of that City lockdown the streets and block the roads and protest until the police and the government take meaningful action against these people, who i believe have political patronage?

Karachi is the biggest city in the country and large parts of it are a shithole. Why can't 20 million people protest, block the city, block the ports - until the government is forced to take action?

This will have positive and negative impact, but it will ultimately make a change. I won't shackle myself to this artificial limits of so called reality. You might think more fool me for trying - but so be it. I work in IT, i get bored easily. :)
if i give the power to hands of public and mobs pakistan will be next libya syria iraq afghanistan . public in pakistan is ready to be violent any time . religion and sect is matter of life and death for them . after they will burn pakistan to core they will start seeking ayslum in right and left . sane brains did not follow emotional mobs . if jinnah was thinking like TLP there was no pakistan today .
 

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Are you that naive?

Raheel sharif is leading a force that is united with Israel behind the scene. Israeli fighters bombed Yemen in collaboration with your so called Muslims.
That coalition of losers was made by Trump admin in order to counter Iran and help Israel.
You need to read my posts before jumping to conclusions. If people weren't so busy to make judgement, we might learn something from each other.

Raheel Sharif is now a glorified security guard. He commands a paper army that does nothing. My point was something "like" that force, could handle this situation.

Fact of the matter is Iran and KSA are having peace talks, things change all the time.
if i give the power to hands of public and mobs pakistan will be next libya syria iraq afghanistan . public in pakistan is ready to be violent any time . religion and sect is matter of life and death for them . after they will burn pakistan to core they will start seeking ayslum in right and left . sane brains did not follow emotional mobs . if jinnah was thinking like TLP there was no pakistan today .
What other option do Pakistani public have to be heard?
 

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My Nostradamus moment. I will revisit this thread in 4 weeks and expect the following.

  • all PDF keyboard warriors will have moved on after having made their contribution with prayers and posts.
  • Saudia, Pakistan, Turkey and ummah will have condemned, given speaches, issued media reports, called for UN and that's that. Until next time.
  • Iran will use it proxies to fire few toy rockets irking the Israeli's who will have replied with F-16s and missiles killing dozens of Pal children.
  • life will go on like 70 years.
  • Palestine was lost by Arad rulers of Jordan, Saudia back in 1940s or before.
Hey "Arabi boy" @Azadkashmir how is the fried chicken going. Tastes real good with colesaw. But make sure you buy the halal version. The one from Morrisons is owned by the Rothschild family and I don't trust them.
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Even now Bajwa, PMIK are probably crapping in their pants in case some local moulvi demands Pakistan deploy Shaheen missiles on Israel and marches Pakistan Army to help our Filistin Muslim brothers. Then aka TLP you get mobs demanding government attack Israel. This could happen. Frankly now that would be a tussle worth watching.
 

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You need to read my posts before jumping to conclusions. If people weren't so busy to make judgement, we might learn something from each other.

Raheel Sharif is now a glorified security guard. He commands a paper army that does nothing. My point was something "like" that force, could handle this situation.

Fact of the matter is Iran and KSA are having peace talks, things change all the time.


What other option do Pakistani public have to be heard?
education inventing things and creating an economy liek israel have . getting tons of nobel prices and lead the world where you want to lead it . just sitting on last seat of humanity bus and bashing on drivers is not a solution . paksitan is running on remittances from OVPs just think with cool mind jew did not achieved it in one decade its take decades of hard work .

here were can not have damn 4g service in half of country education is dust schools are been used for cattle shelters and our dreams are to beat israel .
 

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With that kind of optimism we sure wont. You need to realise when it comes to islam and muslim we have to do it no matter the consequences we have to save other muslim brothers. You are to you opinion but in islam it has no place.
I am not a pessimist. Anyone who reads my opinions knows that. Yes, I try to be honest. I still believe if all Islamic nations bundle their minds and resources things can improve very quickly.
 

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if i give the power to hands of public and mobs pakistan will be next libya syria iraq afghanistan . public in pakistan is ready to be violent any time . religion and sect is matter of life and death for them . after they will burn pakistan to core they will start seeking ayslum in right and left . sane brains did not follow emotional mobs . if jinnah was thinking like TLP there was no pakistan today .
What other option do Pakistani public have to be heard?
education inventing things and creating an economy liek israel have . getting tons of nobel prices and lead the world where you want to lead it . just sitting on last seat of humanity bus and bashing on drivers is not a solution . paksitan is running on remittances from OVPs just think with cool mind jew did not achieved it in one decade its take decades of hard work .

here were can not have damn 4g service in half of country education is dust schools are been used for cattle shelters and our dreams are to beat israel .
How can you have those things when wadera tie donkeys in the schools of Sindh, teachers get salaries whilst sat at home, medical facilities are provided in remote hospitals in AJK where the clinic is non existent. Until people hit the streets to demand change, we will achieve nothing. Individuals will always see success, but society will not.
 

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Palestine was not lost, but sold by Saudis to Jews by Balfour Declaration via UK
Very true. If you watch Lawrence of Arabia the whole "sale" is evident between the scenes. The Arabs that we now in Pakistan worship, including the custodian of holy cities were the traitors. Those poor Turkish soldier who you see being killed in the movie were actually the defenders. Of all the Muslims in the world today only Turks can say "we spilled blood to defend Palestine".
I still believe if all Islamic nations bundle their minds and resources things can improve very quickly.
I also believe that if I trained hard enough I got defeat Amir Khan in a boxing bout. I also believe if I worked hard enough I could make more billions the Gates.

The rub and slip is with that tiny word of catastrophic consequences -

"If".
 

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My Nostradamus moment. I will revisit this thread in 4 weeks and expect the following.

  • all PDF keyboard warriors will have moved on after having made their contribution with prayers and posts.
  • Saudia, Pakistan, Turkey and ummah will have condemned, given speaches, issued media reports, called for UN and that's that. Until next time.
  • Iran will use it proxies to fire few toy rockets irking the Israeli's who will have replied with F-16s and missiles killing dozens of Pal children.
  • life will go on like 70 years.
  • Palestine was lost by Arad rulers of Jordan, Saudia back in 1940s or before.
Hey "Arabi boy" @Azadkashmir how is the fried chicken going. Tastes real good with colesaw. But make sure you buy the halal version. The one from Morrisons is owned by the Rothschild family and I don't trust them.
Even now Bajwa, PMIK are probably crapping in their pants in case some local moulvi demands Pakistan deploy Shaheen missiles on Israel and marches Pakistan Army to help our Filistin Muslim brothers. Then aka TLP you get mobs demanding government attack Israel. This could happen. Frankly now that would be a tussle worth watching.
mixed grill for me. and for you some halal pint and sausages with gravy. enjoy
 

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education inventing things and creating an economy liek israel have . getting tons of nobel prices and lead the world where you want to lead it . just sitting on last seat of humanity bus and bashing on drivers is not a solution . paksitan is running on remittances from OVPs just think with cool mind jew did not achieved it in one decade its take decades of hard work .

here were can not have damn 4g service in half of country education is dust schools are been used for cattle shelters and our dreams are to beat israel .
That is what happens when the leaders are busy making money and abandoning their priorities. Despite shortcomings Pakistan has the potential to make things right. Just because schools are today grazing ground for cattle doesn't mean we can act right and turn schools into schools.
Very true. If you watch Lawrence of Arabia the whole "sale" is evident between the scenes. The Arabs that we now in Pakistan worship, including the custodian of holy cities were the traitors. Those poor Turkish soldier who you see being killed in the movie were actually the defenders. Of all the Muslims in the world today only Turks can say "we spilled blood to defend Palestine".
I also believe that if I trained hard enough I got defeat Amir Khan in a boxing bout. I also believe if I worked hard enough I could make more billions the Gates.

The rub and slip is with that tiny word of catastrophic consequences -

"If".
What alternative do you propose? The same old? Yes, it is going to be almost impossible to bring sanity among thickhead leaders of Islamic nations. Shouldn't mean we should stop trying. The best option for all Islamic nations, rich and poor, is to cooperate. Economically, militarily and otherwise. If they remain divided and stuck in their pathetic little fights they will be swallowed. First by their own actions.

The alternative is Palestine. Your land and resources snatched in broad daylight. A whole nation turned into orphans where everyone is having a laugh.
 
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yes pak can progress and become beast but if the bas trds switch to printing their own currency and barter trade. throw imf /world bank out.
 

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