You got Ex ISI cheif on camera admitting he ordered air lifting of anti tank missiles to Bosnia.
Oh, so are we supposed to be impressed that a senior Pakistani General acted as a two-bit criminal without the proper authority or jurisdiction to act out his own personal religious beliefs?fired Gen Nasir from ISI post. His actions, against UN arms embargo, cost him his job.
Ex-Director of CIA is Nobody!Your basing your comments on a tweet from a current nobody.
So you are scared of the "massive sanctions" and not the massive bombs that may fall on you if Israel and it's allies are successful in their mission? What a short sighted view, you need to think ahead as what we do today will decide the outcomes of tomorrow. The reality is all it needs is a weapons supply line to the Palestinians and because of the size of Israel it will just collapse into total chaos. For the Jews who had it good and then for it to be taken away from them will be too much and cause regime change.And how will these Cruise Missiles, Anti Tank Weapons and these other Fancy Weapons be delivered to the Palestinians? Who will train them how to use these sophisticated weapons? Not to mention, this act will result in massive sanctions aimed towards Pakistan.
Egypt and Jordan have excellent relations with the Israelis and don't want to supply Hamas or West Bank with any weapons. Jordan already has horrible experience of supporting the PLO in the 70's when the PLO in turn tried to overthrow the Royal Family of Jordan and take over the country. They won't be allowing any weapons flowing from their territory any time soon, same with Egypt.
We need to accept the reality. Palestine can simply not fight the Israelis. The Israelis have successfully disarmed the Palestinians. They have built technology that makes Rockets, Tunnels etc largely redundant. The Rich Arab World have largely allied with Israel to counter Iran. Palestine is not a an important topic for the Oil Rich Arab World anymore. The best way forward is for Hamas to disarm, renounce violence and accept Israel's right to existence. This is how they will gain international sympathy and hopefully this will pressurize Israel to scale its operations back.
The Palestinian leadership has only itself to blame for this BTW. They were offered peace, not once but five times and quiet generous terms by the Israelis. Guess what, the Palestinian leadership rejected it every time. Now bear the consequences for your decisions. They certainly won't get the same terms offered before, but again, something is better then nothing.
That's what Hindu's like Ghandi attempted to do in the 30s and 40s and Jinnah along with the Muslim League told them to f*ck off.However be careful not to give one group too much sway on the affairs of governance. Strike a balance so all parties moderate each other.
Bro, you don't have an understanding of what Jinnah meant because you've been intentionally misled for years.“The great majority of us are Muslims. We follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (may peace be upon him). We are members of the brotherhood of Islam in which all are equal in rights, dignity and self-respect. Consequently, we have a special and a very deep sense of unity. But make no mistake: Pakistan is not a theocracy or anything like it.”
― Muhammad Ali Jinnah
I'll begin by stating a fact that there is no recorded record of that speech you cited:“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”
― Muhammad Ali Jinnah
The time is right now. You need to go immediately because the Kafir Israelis are killing Palestinians right left and center. You need to pick up your arms and go to Palestine immediately to fight the Kafirs. The Israelis control Masjid Al Aqsa, so you need to go fight and take back Al Aqsa from them.In sha Allah when time for jihad comes I’ll be there and support my Muslim brothers out and defend al aqsa. I’m not a beghairat who would ask mujahideen to give up their arms and surrender to the kaffir. I still have imaan in me at least I don’t support kaffir Israel which is enemies of Islam and they’ve even been mentioned in the Quran. I haven’t sold my deen for worldly pleasures.
In sha Allah when the time is right and my age is right I’ll support my Muslim brothers in jihad against kaffirs.
Btw living in a kaffir country (Canada) is not haram and is permissible
Not supporting at all, just being realistic. I know the Palestinians cannot defeat Israelis, that's why i advocate for a peaceful solution. Don't fight a war you cannot win. And don't worry about me brother, you worry about yourself living a very comfortable life in Kafir Canada. Oh just an FYI, Canada has excellent relations with Israel and conducts 80% of its trade with Kafir USA, that also supports Israel.Supporting anti Islam kaffir Israel against mujahideen who are defending al aqsa and them selves is haram so worry about your self brother
I am a Pakistani not a Palestinian. There are no bombs falling on me because Pakistan Armed Forces are strong enough to thwart any adventurism.So you are scared of the "massive sanctions" and not the massive bombs that may fall on you if Israel and it's allies are successful in their mission?
And how will you open the weapons supply? The water is blockaded by the Israeli Navy. Egypt and Jordan won't allow you to ship any weapons. So how will we deliver the weapons to Gaza and what kind of weapons? Any sophisticated weapons would require lots of training.\ and time.The reality is all it needs is a weapons supply line to the Palestinians and because of the size of Israel it will just collapse into total chaos. For the Jews who had it good and then for it to be taken away from them will be too much and cause regime change.
Come on man. That dollar reserve increase comes from trade with Kabul. Iranians have many sleepers in the Kabul regime. Plus Ghani and friends wanted to use Iranian ports for external trade and not Pakistani ports (some sort of economic pressure tactic). That stopped after trump sanctioned Iran again...and why there is a big drop.
In your little world where you think states are run as per the narrative of your "likeminded" lot, where the security establishment will get PM authorization on every single security related issue, then PM will be sitting in the office 24*7 giving authorization for all operations/black ops. There is thing called delegation. Learn what it means.Oh, so are we supposed to be impressed that a senior Pakistani General acted as a two-bit criminal without the proper authority or jurisdiction to act out his own personal religious beliefs?
I suppose the Serbians displayed Pakistani missiles fragments just like they did for other ordnances used during the war as proof that the General actually did something like that, or was he just trying to justify his firing and/or his criminal behavior?
(PS: The EU wanted the genocide to continue, but USA stopped them by using a few project managers and later with direct intervention. BB was a total UK lackey and did what she was told. That is all.)
Negotiations will go nowhere. Right wing Israeli see it as Arab boot licking. They view UAE, Morroco and Sudan as Arab bootlickers (not what MBZ was envisioning). See the result of negotiations. Small arms wont defeat the Israeli but it distracts and drains them.f you think Israel will collapse from a few Rockets and ATGM's, i can only laugh at you. Please go back and read up on the outcome of the 1967 and 1973 War where all the Combined Arab Armies got whooped by Israel. The only solution to Palestine lies in a peaceful negotiated solution with Israel.
You and 99% members of this forum refuse to believe on tweet Mike Pompeo and and supportive stats but forcing reader to believe whatever you dubious people fart out of hips!Come on man. That dollar reserve increase comes from trade with Kabul. Iranians have many sleepers in the Kabul regime. Plus Ghani and friends wanted to use Iranian ports for external trade and not Pakistani ports (some sort of economic pressure tactic). That stopped after trump sanctioned Iran again...and why there is a big drop.
Did they Americans help Iran get a stronger hand in Afghanistan and Iraq....definitely yes. But are they giving money to Iran....no way.
In your little world where you think states are run as per the narrative of your "likeminded" lot, where the security establishment will get PM authorization on every single security related issue, then PM will be sitting in the office 24*7 giving authorization for all operations/black ops. There is thing called delegation. Learn what it means.
General acted, doing what was right. And if you are old enough to remember ojri camp disaster (yes I experienced it first hand) , he was the one who lead the operation to clear the extremely dangerous site, moving the unexploded projectiles on his own shoulders. Man was not known to be one of those "thinking" lot , the kiyanis and Musharrafs of this world, rather he did what was needed. Good on him, that's what nation except from generals and commanders. Act, dont think needlessly. Thinking is for politicians.
Ah BB now a British lackey. You need to grow up, rather fast. Lol.
Again I ask you, who are those directors? Any names, any reference, any proofs and verifiable statements that you can bring forth as supporting evidence towards your rants?
Do you even think or do a little bit of research before letting your verbal diarrhea stink the whole debate? LOL. The good general belongs to cor of engineers, and I can assure you, he was not running the Afghan war. (At this point, I would rather not explain to a senior member what are the roles and responsibilities of Engineers LOL).LOL! So the good General on contract with his boss the great General was seem acting like Amitabh Bachchan in ruins of Ojhri Camp?! Did it even occur to you that he might be the moron responsible for storing rockets meant for contractual obligations pointing up in violation of basic SOPs in the middle of a densely populated city in the first place? And if he was duly delegated any authority in this behalf, then why was he fired for it?
The real question here is why the likes of you who choose to fantasize about what really happened more than a quarter century ago are now dreaming of projecting power into Israel like the topic of this thread? It would take a short phone call to shut anything like this even being planned. May I remind you that a certain pair of gonads is nailed to the wall of a small office in the Pentagon for several good reasons.
Obviously thinking is for politicians. Idiots who do not think lead the nation to pay the price for their follies like Ojhri and Kargil.