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One soldier martyred by unprovoked Indian firing in LOC

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  1. Icewolf

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    ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - The Pakistani military said on Wednesday one of its officers had been killed in "unprovoked" firing by Indian troops across the border in the disputed Kashmir region but an Indian official said his side had only responded to initial Pakistani fire.

    The incident was the latest in a series of clashes that began this month which has undermined a push by Pakistan's new civilian government to improve ties with old rival India.

    A Pakistani military official said that as well as the officer killed, a soldier was seriously wounded in the "unprovoked Indian shelling".

    The violence came two weeks after the killing of five Indian soldiers along the so-called Line of Control that separates the two sides in the Himalayan region. India said the five were killed by Pakistani forces but Pakistan denied involvement.

    The nuclear-armed rivals have fought three wars since 1947, two of them over Kashmir. Both control a part of the Muslim-majority region but claim it in full.

    A truce along their Kashmir border has held for nearly a decade even though it has been broken every now and then by tit-for-tat artillery fire and the occasional cross-border ambush.

    An Indian army official said Indian troops came under heavy mortar and light-machine gun fire from the Pakistani side on Tuesday night in the Kargil region, where the two sides fought an undeclared war in 1999.

    The Kargil region had been peaceful since then until shooting began again last week.

    "Under intense pressure ... we fired back," the Indian official said.

    India has faced an insurgency in its part of Kashmir since 1989 and had long accused Pakistan of supporting the militants fighting Indian rule.

    Pakistan denies arming the militants, saying that it only offers moral support to the Muslim people of Kashmir who are living under what Pakistan criticizes as harsh Indian rule.

    EYES ON AFGHANISTAN

    Nevertheless, despite Pakistan's denials that it helps the militants, fighters have for years slipped from the Pakistani side of Kashmir into the Indian side to battle Indian forces.

    India says that this year it has seen a spike in attempts by militants to infiltrate into its part of Kashmir.

    Many analysts expect the trend to continue as the two countries jostle for influence in Afghanistan as a NATO force prepares to withdraw by the end of 2014.

    Both nations fear the other is trying to install a proxy government in Kabul.

    Pakistan's government, elected in a May general election, has tried to be conciliatory over the latest outbreak of border violence.

    On Monday, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who made better ties with India a theme of his election campaign, said Pakistan and India should be fighting poverty and illiteracy instead of each other. He has also asked for talks with Indian officials.

    But with elections approaching in India, many doubt that the government in New Delhi is in a position to make any concessions to Pakistan.

    Hamid Gul, a former chief of Pakistan's military intelligence agency, told Reuters Television that Sharif had been prepared to reach out to India in the hope of mending ties before the spate of clashes put paid to that.

    "It would've meant putting Kashmir on the back burner for the time being. But now all this has happened. And all the lobbies that have been talking about peace between India and Pakistan ... have been scuttled," Gul said.

    Pakistan, India trade blame for Kashmir firing; one dead | Reuters
     
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    This stupidity from both sides must stop, its not helping anyone.

    LoC firing: Pakistan Army captain killed - DAWN.COM


    ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani army officer was killed and a soldier wounded after an exchange of fire across the de facto border with India, the Pakistani military said.

    The Pakistan army said in a statement that Captain Sarfraz was killed “due to Indian troops' unprovoked shelling at Shakma sector on line of control.”

    According to the statement, another soldier was also seriously injured when Indian forces opened fire at Shakma sector near the town of Skardu on Tuesday night at 11:15pm local time.

    Pakistani troops responded to the firing and exchange of fire continued for several hours after midnight, said the sources.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan's foreign ministry late Wednesday said the Indian deputy high commissioner in Islamabad was summoned and “a strong protest was lodged over the unprovoked firing by Indian army soldiers”.

    “Pakistan conveyed its serious concern on the continued violations of the ceasefire across the LoC by the Indian Army over the past few weeks and the escalation of tensions,” the statement said, calling upon India “to take serious and credible measures to prevent further ceasefire violations and reduce tensions”.

    An Indian army official told news agency AFP that he had no information about the incident or the casualties reported.

    Recent weeks have seen an escalation in tensions between the two South Asian neighbours, with several soldiers killed on both sides of the border, which either side declares to be unilateral violations of a 2003 ceasefire by the other country.

    The renewed tensions have jeopardised plans for what the two governments hoped might be a breakthrough encounter between Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh on the sidelines of a UN meeting in New York next month.
     
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    Look at the size of ID card indian army is showing claiming to be a Pakistani :D:omghaha:
     
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    Sometimes I don't understand need Indian logic...
    Why would a militant hold a Pakistani identity card in the first place :cuckoo:

    Most of what India does is fake anyway.
     
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    Oi @SHAMK9 - Why would a Militant go into Indian territory carrying an over-sized Pakistani ID ? :unsure:
     
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    hahaha
    height of indian brilliance

    on top with red its written

    :AZAD HAKOOMAT RYASAT JAMOON KASHMIR"

    *Facepalm*

    :hitwall:
     
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    So,how do they recognise 1500 terrorists..what do you suggest? Face recognition or Voice recognition devices fitted on the LOC?
     
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    and you forgot over sized ID cards printed from local patwari's office.
     
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    Well,they forgot to hire you i guess.Maybe you can help them with laser print ID cards.
     
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    why multiple threads on the same topic ?
     
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    Is this a new incident or day before yesterday's incident?? There was news or a soldier's death and one wounded.....
     
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    The name and the serial number is given.The Pakistanis has a good chance to prove the Indian's claims false. Instead of pointing at the size of the card they should protest and deny in a much more intelligent manner.
     
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    Old incident...

    So militants have ancients fake NICs issued by "Azad Hakomat Riyasat Jammu and Kashmir" ... is this supposed to be a joke?
     
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    may be he printed to frame it and wanted to gift it to indian army . :hitwall:
     
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