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The 3rd two plus two ministerial meeting next week will see both India and the United States consolidating military-to-military relationship between the two democracies to move towards institutionalised intelligence-sharing agreement and go beyond tri-services exercises into unmanned, space and underwater platform domains, people familiar with the matter said.


On October 26-27, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar will meet US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defence Secretary Mark Esper in national capital Delhi for the third round of the top strategic dialogue agreed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and US President Donald Trump back in 2017. The two sides are expected to sign off on a geo-spatial military foundational agreement called BECA (Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement) that is a precursor to India acquiring armed drones such as the MQ-9B from the US that use spatial data for pinpointed strikes.

The two sides are expected to build on past gains at the meeting being held weeks before the US Presidential elections on November 3, comfortable in the knowledge that there is bi-partisan consensus within the US on deepening India-US strategic relationship.


There is a strong possibility that the two sides could work out a pact that allows institutionalised relationship between the Defence Intelligence Agencies of the two countries. India and the US already share real-time intelligence through the communication agreement called COMCASA. But the new pact would allow the two allies to share vital tri-services intelligence on developments in all defence matters ranging from the South China Sea to Ladakh. This proposal has been hanging fire for quite some years without any results.

Although BECA is still to be formally cleared by PM Modi’s Cabinet, the agreement will enable India to buy armed unmanned aerial and underwater platforms from the US. These would be loaded with neighbourhood terrain maps for pin-pointed destruction of acquired targets. The terrain maps will also help in precision flying of US made platforms acquired by India and hence enhance military capability of platforms like Apache attack helicopters and Chinook heavy lift helicopters.


While a decision to acquire armed drones has been communicated to the US, the two countries are going beyond mere exercises and into hitherto unexplored domains like space and undersea.

The two sides will also discuss the People’s Liberation Army’s aggression in Ladakh and its muscle flexing in the South China Sea and the countermeasures that the four-nation QUAD - that also comprises Japan and Australia - needs to take to remain committed to free and open Indo-Pacific for global trade and commerce.

The peace in Afghanistan and terror in Pakistan will be also on top priority as India fears more violence in Kabul once the American forces leave the Islamic Republic after 19 years. Even though India participated in the Doha intra-Afghan talks, it is concerned about the Pakistani deep state’s hold on the Taliban and has told the leadership of the present government in Kabul to present a united face.

 

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In the interim, this pact will mean USA will share Pakistans secrets with India aswell. It is quite a large pact.
 

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The problem is how does SCS intel benefit India in Ladakh? Surely whatever happens over 1000 thousand to the southwest would have extremely little bearing on Chinese movements in Ladakh ... as usual, merely a symbolic gesture.
 

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The problem is how does SCS intel benefit India in Ladakh? Surely whatever happens over 1000 thousand to the southwest would have extremely little bearing on Chinese movements in Ladakh ... as usual, merely a symbolic gesture.
1. Satellite imagery on location of weapons, placement of troops
2. Intl from Chinese War room for India to preempt their moves (they took dominating heights in EL recently)
3. work more closely on setting up of joint Intl base in Laddak between Israel,India and US to keep tap over China (Tibet), CPEC and Chinese base in GB.
 

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I think India is surely but slowly falling into Uncle Sams trap. They will use and abuse India and than discard it like a spent.......
Speaking from experience ..ehh?

Btw Pakistan was used ..abused and discarded by the US only after ..the Soviet Union had been defeated...that too because of its clandestine nuclear program and proliferation.

It was 4 decades of Pakistan sitting on USA's lap and sucking at it's proverbial teat. In the mean time .. Pakistan defence got so beefed up..that it even had the galls to launch a war on India in 1965.

If Indo - US alliance falls apart after China( and by extension Pakistan) is defeated ..I don't see a downside to it.
 
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Speaking from experience ..ehh?

Btw Pakistan was used ..abused and discarded by the US only after ..the Soviet Union had been defeated...that too because of its clandestine nuclear program and proliferation.

It was 4 decades of Pakistan sitting on USA's lap and sucking at it's proverbial teat. In the mean time .. Pakistan defence got so beefed up..that it even had the galls to launch a war on India in 1965.

If Indo - US alliance falls apart after China( and by extension Pakistan) is defeated ..I don't see a downside to it.
Also Indian market itself will be large enough for US to keep engaged as a friend than a foe. China should have realised this just about now. In the 6 months this fiscal, China lost $15 billion in trade with India compared to previous year.
 

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I already thought about this, let alone the Chinese think-tanks and strategic planners.
Everyone expected the U.S. regime would provide intelligence to Indians anyways, as long as India bears all the casualities and cost of war anyways. It costs them next to nothing and at worst poses a riskfactor of some Jawan exposing it too soon to the enemy for some bobs and vegana images. Of course only to the extent that it creates prolonged warfare that harms both China and India as much as possible leaving America as the only winner. They obviously dont want a quick decicive victory for India (as absurd as that scenario is) and certainly not pay for it.

Except apparently India, who seems to make concessions to the U.S. regime for being used as their cannon fodder, buying itself into stronger dependence of the US and sacrificing its relations with Russia
 
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Everyone expected the U.S. regime would provide intelligence to Indians anyways, as long as India bears all the casualities and cost of war anyways. It costs them next to nothing and at worst poses a riskfactor of some Jawan exposing it too soon to the enemy for some bobs and vegana images. Of course only to the extent that it creates prolonged warfare that harms both China and India as much as possible leaving America as the only winner. They obviously dont want a quick decicive victory for India (as absurd as that scenario is) and certainly not pay for it.

Except apparently India, who seems to make concessions to the U.S. regime for being used as their cannon fodder, buying itself into stronger dependence of the US and sacrificing its relations with Russia
Please worry about yourself. Don't over analyze our motivations. Chinese should stop lecturing us about our foreign policy, you have yours and we have ours. Gobar times does it so often. It seems it is a cultural trait. It's annoying.
 

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Please worry about yourself. Don't over analyze our motivations. Chinese should stop lecturing us about our foreign policy, you have yours and we have ours. Gobar times does it so often. It seems it is a cultural trait. It's annoying.
If we don't provide you lectures as you mentioned, you would be colonized again for another 200 years? Or 300?
You guys are already the most conquered civilization ever in history. You're just repeating the same mistakes over and over and over.
 

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If we don't provide you lectures as you mentioned, you would be colonized again for another 200 years? Or 300?
You guys are already the most conquered civilization ever in history. You're just repeating the same mistakes over and over and over.
Seriously dude, I think you should shut up and mind your business.
When other countries invaded India, it was not geographically India of today and it was hampered by the social divisions that don'texist today. Only a fool would think to invade India now. It is more likely that China will be invaded than India given your penchant to take on everyone. Let's see what future holds for us.
 

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Seriously dude, I think you should shut up and mind your business.
When other countries invaded India, it was not geographically India of today and it was hampered by the social divisions that don'texist today. Only a fool would think to invade India now. It is more likely that China will be invaded than India given your penchant to take on everyone. Let's see what future holds for us.
Who told you we're taking on everyone? Indian media? We have just one enemy for now - USA. India is just a teaser. You're not worth it.
 

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