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PM Shehbaz has rejected the dashboard because it required manual entry of data while the expectation was for the PM to have a real time information feed. This shows that the PM is an able administrator who knows what he wants and does not let shoddy work get a pass. The blame here is on the IT folk managed by Pakistan's bureaucracy (not political leadership) who have not hired a serious solution architecture team for work. PM Shehbaz has rightfully held them responsible for the failure 👍
 

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Officials left red-faced as PM Shehbaz refuses to launch flood relief dashboard

Dawn.com
October 3, 2022


<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Monday issued a rebuke and expressed visible frustration after finding inadequacies in a dashboard built to monitor flood relief assistance, pointing out that it lacked real-time updates and was not of international standards.

The prime minister left federal ministers Ahsan Iqbal, Aminul Haque, Marriyum Aurangzeb and Tariq Bashir Cheema red-faced as he refused to inaugurate the event and remained seated as he outlined his primary objection with the dashboard — designed by the IT ministry — saying that it was not being updated in real-time.

“If real-time information doesn’t arrive in this then it’s of no use. Then we are wasting each other’s time. I’m not going to inaugurate this today,” he said when informed that data from the meteorological department was not yet integrated with the dashboard.

“This should be trashed,” he said, calling it a “joke”. “I’m not negating your effort but this is not the dashboard we all imagined. This is a stationary thing in which you fill in figures.”

The prime minister mentioned a different dashboard that monitors dengue hotspots and said it provided “active information” and was based on a “proper structure”.

At one point, Iqbal tried to placate the premier by reasoning that the information on the portal could not be displayed in real-time because it was dependent on information from the provincial disaster management authorities.

However, Shehbaz cut the minister midway, “but sir […] you will find out who is providing the information and who is not […] at best, this can be called a static dashboard.”

“But still, dashboards are a work in progress […],” Iqbal, once again, tried to pacify the prime minister. “They have developed a tool in a short time but as we go on more data will be uploaded.”

But Shehbaz was adamant that the dashboard couldn’t meet international standards and failed to show the colossal damage suffered during the floods.

“This (flood dashboard) is not something the nation or I want. It lacks in many ways [and] it is deficient to our requirement,” the prime minister said as he reprimanded the officials concerned.

He also complained that the dashboard was not fast enough, adding that a lagging portal would not reflect the loss suffered due to the floods as well as the government’s efforts to mitigate their fallout.

The prime minister said that with upcoming international conventions and moots on the horizon, he wanted the dashboard to be of a certain standard and in line with modern expectations.

Here, Haque assured the PM that all his instructions had been noted. “We will try to modify this [the dashboard] and make it better. I request you to inaugurate it today and we will make it better,” he said.

The IT minister also went up to the stage to talk to the official briefing the ceremony.

Subsequently, Shehbaz suggested that the project could be “provisionally” launched today but officially launched next Monday after incorporating his suggestions and criticisms.

The prime minister was assured by the officials that they would resolve the issues he had outlined and convert the dashboard into a real-time platform in a week’s span.

Shehbaz told the two federal ministers to take all the help they needed but develop a “world class” dashboard, adding that it would aid the government for decades to come and any “makeshift” work would be of no benefit.

The prime minister also took updates and briefings on various flood-related topics from officials at the event.


Shobaaz, paisay kha raha hay peechay say,,,,, is kee sho baazia are notorious ..
 

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PM Shehbaz has rejected the dashboard because it required manual entry of data while the expectation was for the PM to have a real time information feed. This shows that the PM is an able administrator who knows what he wants and does not let shoddy work get a pass. The blame here is on the IT folk managed by Pakistan's bureaucracy (not political leadership) who have not hired a serious solution architecture team for work. PM Shehbaz has rightfully held them responsible for the failure 👍

:lol:
 

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Officials left red-faced as PM Shehbaz refuses to launch flood relief dashboard

Dawn.com
October 3, 2022


<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Monday issued a rebuke and expressed visible frustration after finding inadequacies in a dashboard built to monitor flood relief assistance, pointing out that it lacked real-time updates and was not of international standards.

The prime minister left federal ministers Ahsan Iqbal, Aminul Haque, Marriyum Aurangzeb and Tariq Bashir Cheema red-faced as he refused to inaugurate the event and remained seated as he outlined his primary objection with the dashboard — designed by the IT ministry — saying that it was not being updated in real-time.

“If real-time information doesn’t arrive in this then it’s of no use. Then we are wasting each other’s time. I’m not going to inaugurate this today,” he said when informed that data from the meteorological department was not yet integrated with the dashboard.

“This should be trashed,” he said, calling it a “joke”. “I’m not negating your effort but this is not the dashboard we all imagined. This is a stationary thing in which you fill in figures.”

The prime minister mentioned a different dashboard that monitors dengue hotspots and said it provided “active information” and was based on a “proper structure”.

At one point, Iqbal tried to placate the premier by reasoning that the information on the portal could not be displayed in real-time because it was dependent on information from the provincial disaster management authorities.

However, Shehbaz cut the minister midway, “but sir […] you will find out who is providing the information and who is not […] at best, this can be called a static dashboard.”

“But still, dashboards are a work in progress […],” Iqbal, once again, tried to pacify the prime minister. “They have developed a tool in a short time but as we go on more data will be uploaded.”

But Shehbaz was adamant that the dashboard couldn’t meet international standards and failed to show the colossal damage suffered during the floods.

“This (flood dashboard) is not something the nation or I want. It lacks in many ways [and] it is deficient to our requirement,” the prime minister said as he reprimanded the officials concerned.

He also complained that the dashboard was not fast enough, adding that a lagging portal would not reflect the loss suffered due to the floods as well as the government’s efforts to mitigate their fallout.

The prime minister said that with upcoming international conventions and moots on the horizon, he wanted the dashboard to be of a certain standard and in line with modern expectations.

Here, Haque assured the PM that all his instructions had been noted. “We will try to modify this [the dashboard] and make it better. I request you to inaugurate it today and we will make it better,” he said.

The IT minister also went up to the stage to talk to the official briefing the ceremony.

Subsequently, Shehbaz suggested that the project could be “provisionally” launched today but officially launched next Monday after incorporating his suggestions and criticisms.

The prime minister was assured by the officials that they would resolve the issues he had outlined and convert the dashboard into a real-time platform in a week’s span.

Shehbaz told the two federal ministers to take all the help they needed but develop a “world class” dashboard, adding that it would aid the government for decades to come and any “makeshift” work would be of no benefit.

The prime minister also took updates and briefings on various flood-related topics from officials at the event.


Why waste money on dashboard? Use it to provide drinking water and portable toilets to prevent unnecessary disease and deaths. Also, Shipping containers that are used to block traffic all over the country can be used as emergency shelters to protect people from the elements.
 

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Imagine if he was leader of China India or Bangladesh . Motherfucker would be getting tortured in jail now not but is sitting in the highest office arguing over a dashboard.

Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason India or ttp blow up the cabinet with Bajwa among them , would Pakistanis celebrate .

I personally think the hate of public in these cretins is so bad that the masses would party like it’s 1999 .
 

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Why waste money on dashboard? Use it to provide drinking water and portable toilets to prevent unnecessary disease and deaths.
Many developing countries use real time monitoring and data driven policy decisions to drive efficiency in public sector administration. The investment on the dashboard will pay for itself in terms of more efficient aid distribution for the public. :agree:
 

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PM Shehbaz has rejected the dashboard because it required manual entry of data while the expectation was for the PM to have a real time information feed. This shows that the PM is an able administrator who knows what he wants and does not let shoddy work get a pass. The blame here is on the IT folk managed by Pakistan's bureaucracy (not political leadership) who have not hired a serious solution architecture team for work. PM Shehbaz has rightfully held them responsible for the failure 👍

LOL, If he understood how the data is collected he wouldn't be complaining about it not being realtime. Was he expecting the death counter to increase while he watched? Does the dashboard monitor when someone dies and updates automatically...

The only realtime info on the dashboard would be the time if they had a clock. Every other bit of data such as houses or crops damaged needs to be verified and updated by a person manually. A simple website would update everytime some data is modified in a linked database.
Shobaz is a disabled assministrator by the looks of it. 🤣
 

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LOL, If he understood how the data is collected he wouldn't be complaining about it not being realtime. Was he expecting the death counter to increase while he watched? Does the dashboard monitor when someone dies and updates automatically...

The only realtime info on the dashboard would be the time if they had a clock. Every other bit of data such as houses or crops damaged needs to be verified and updated by a person manually. A simple website would update everytime some data is modified in a linked database.
Shobaz is a disabled assministrator by the looks of it. 🤣
Near real time data can be very useful in on demand resource distribution. In this case, the data can be a day or two delayed. I see the trend of using dashboards by PM / CM in India as well :agree:
 

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Is haramzadeh ke showbazia khatam hi nahi hoti :disagree: A whole ceremony just to come out with a scripted rebuke and fluid pieces to follow.

Poor Umar bhai thought he was gonna get a pat on the back from his pals for yet another low effort but instead got caught in the crossfire.
 

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Officials left red-faced as PM Shehbaz refuses to launch flood relief dashboard

Dawn.com
October 3, 2022


<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks at an event to launch a real-time dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

<p>Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV</p>


Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s refusal to inaugurate a dashboard to monitor flood relief assistance left federal ministers red-faced on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Monday issued a rebuke and expressed visible frustration after finding inadequacies in a dashboard built to monitor flood relief assistance, pointing out that it lacked real-time updates and was not of international standards.

The prime minister left federal ministers Ahsan Iqbal, Aminul Haque, Marriyum Aurangzeb and Tariq Bashir Cheema red-faced as he refused to inaugurate the event and remained seated as he outlined his primary objection with the dashboard — designed by the IT ministry — saying that it was not being updated in real-time.

“If real-time information doesn’t arrive in this then it’s of no use. Then we are wasting each other’s time. I’m not going to inaugurate this today,” he said when informed that data from the meteorological department was not yet integrated with the dashboard.

“This should be trashed,” he said, calling it a “joke”. “I’m not negating your effort but this is not the dashboard we all imagined. This is a stationary thing in which you fill in figures.”

The prime minister mentioned a different dashboard that monitors dengue hotspots and said it provided “active information” and was based on a “proper structure”.

At one point, Iqbal tried to placate the premier by reasoning that the information on the portal could not be displayed in real-time because it was dependent on information from the provincial disaster management authorities.

However, Shehbaz cut the minister midway, “but sir […] you will find out who is providing the information and who is not […] at best, this can be called a static dashboard.”

“But still, dashboards are a work in progress […],” Iqbal, once again, tried to pacify the prime minister. “They have developed a tool in a short time but as we go on more data will be uploaded.”

But Shehbaz was adamant that the dashboard couldn’t meet international standards and failed to show the colossal damage suffered during the floods.

“This (flood dashboard) is not something the nation or I want. It lacks in many ways [and] it is deficient to our requirement,” the prime minister said as he reprimanded the officials concerned.

He also complained that the dashboard was not fast enough, adding that a lagging portal would not reflect the loss suffered due to the floods as well as the government’s efforts to mitigate their fallout.

The prime minister said that with upcoming international conventions and moots on the horizon, he wanted the dashboard to be of a certain standard and in line with modern expectations.

Here, Haque assured the PM that all his instructions had been noted. “We will try to modify this [the dashboard] and make it better. I request you to inaugurate it today and we will make it better,” he said.

The IT minister also went up to the stage to talk to the official briefing the ceremony.

Subsequently, Shehbaz suggested that the project could be “provisionally” launched today but officially launched next Monday after incorporating his suggestions and criticisms.

The prime minister was assured by the officials that they would resolve the issues he had outlined and convert the dashboard into a real-time platform in a week’s span.

Shehbaz told the two federal ministers to take all the help they needed but develop a “world class” dashboard, adding that it would aid the government for decades to come and any “makeshift” work would be of no benefit.

The prime minister also took updates and briefings on various flood-related topics from officials at the event.


give him Jira dashboard and request live updates ....even college going kid can set up a dashboard in a few hours.

PM Shehbaz has rejected the dashboard because it required manual entry of data while the expectation was for the PM to have a real time information feed. This shows that the PM is an able administrator who knows what he wants and does not let shoddy work get a pass. The blame here is on the IT folk managed by Pakistan's bureaucracy (not political leadership) who have not hired a serious solution architecture team for work. PM Shehbaz has rightfully held them responsible for the failure 👍
Well, his team of bureaucrats are all sirfarshi jahil ..... they don t know anything about requirement gathering stages ... Plus he failed to explain what he wants ... this is a complete cycle...but PMLN is surrounded by 80s and 90s sirfarshi babus who never seen computer , only in pictures.
 

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PM Shehbaz has rejected the dashboard because it required manual entry of data while the expectation was for the PM to have a real time information feed. This shows that the PM is an able administrator who knows what he wants and does not let shoddy work get a pass. The blame here is on the IT folk managed by Pakistan's bureaucracy (not political leadership) who have not hired a serious solution architecture team for work. PM Shehbaz has rightfully held them responsible for the failure 👍

Ah hell no :suicide:
 

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Well, his team of bureaucrats are all sirfarshi jahil ..... they don t know anything about requirement gathering stages ... Plus he failed to explain what he wants ... this is a complete cycle...but PMLN is surrounded by 80s and 90s sirfarshi babus who never seen computer , only in pictures.
Did Pakistan also not inherit the civil services cadre from British Raj? India is run by these officers who are selected by exams and interviews independent of which political party wields power. These are the bureaucrats who are responsible to manage the execution of government policies. Surely, PM Shahbaz is not responsible for the quality of such people. It is the output of entire Pakistani civil society :agree:
 

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