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  1. ghazi52

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    The pressure Vessel installed at second Hualong One Nuclear Power Plant

    The pressure vessel for the Chinese designed Hualong One reactor under construction as unit 3 of Karachi nuclear power plant has been hoisted into place.

    The component was put into place within the unit's reactor building at 8:19am yesterday, China National Nuclear Corporation announced today. It said the milestone marked the unit's entry into the "full installation phase of key components".

    The pressure vessel was independently designed by China Nuclear Power Research & Design Institute and was produced by China First Heavy Machinery Company Limited.

    The installation of the pressure vessel followed that of the unit's three steam generators. CNNC noted that all four components had been installed within just 19 days, providing "a useful reference for the construction of other similar power stations".

    The vessel and steam generators were all installed using CNNC's new method using an E-frame to "flip" the components. It said this method can improve efficiency and safety, as well as reducing labour intensity and reducing the chance of human error, compared with the traditional "fixed bracket" installation. The technique further improves the safety and economy of the "pre-introduction" construction method - where the main reactor equipment is installed before the dome of the containment building - which CNNC first used in a reactor of this type at Karachi 2.

    Karachi 2 and 3 are the first export of China's Hualong One pressurised water reactor design, with construction of unit 2 beginning in 2015 and unit 3 in 2016. The units are scheduled for commercial operation in 2021 and 2022, respectively, when they will add a further 2322 MWe to Pakistan's existing nuclear generation capacity of 1355 MWe from five operating units: a small pressurised heavy water reactor at Karachi, and four Chinese-designed pressurised water reactors at Chashma. A third 1161 MWe Hualong One unit is planned for construction at Chashma.


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    The dome of Karachi unit 3 in Pakistan has been lifted into place, marking the transition from civil construction to equipment installation at the Hualong One unit.

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    Karachi 3's dome is lifted into place (Image: CNNC)

    Karachi 2 and 3 are the first export of China's Hualong One pressurised water reactor design, with construction of unit 2 beginning in 2015 and unit 3 in 2016. The units are scheduled for commercial operation in 2021 and 2022, respectively.

    Karachi 3's dome - 23.4 metres high, with a diameter of 46.8 metres and weighing about 388 tonnes - was hoisted into place in the morning of 29 September, China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) said. The unit's nuclear island was completed in June, and "pre-introduction" of major components, including the reactor pressure vessel and steam generators, was completed earlier in September. Unit 3's nuclear island was completed in a shorter time than it took to complete the same work for unit 2.

    In addition to the two units under construction at Karachi, four Hualong One units - also known as HPR1000 - are being built in China. Fanchenggang 3 and 4 and Fuqing 5 and 6 are all expected to enter commercial operation in 2019-2020.

    Pakistan currently has 1355 MWe of nuclear generating capacity from five operating units: a small pressurised heavy water reactor at Karachi, and four Chinese-designed pressurised water reactors at Chashma. A third 1161 MWe Hualong One unit is planned for construction at Chashma.

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    K1 at Karachi is a testament to Pakistan nuclear energy

    The reactor has outlived its life by 30 years and yet through upgrades and repairs they run that unit for best part of almost 50 years once K2 and K3 are commissioned

    In the west they usually cut short the life of the reactor due to safety, but Pakistan has extended its life while under monitoring by IAEA

    True testament to the safety and dedication of the civilian nuclear industry in Pakistan

    In my opinion there should also have been a K4 and K5
     
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    PARIS (Reuters) - China has signed a deal to build a third large nuclear reactor in Pakistan, which wants to get a fifth of its electricity from nuclear by 2030.

    World Nuclear News, supported by industry lobby World Nuclear Association, reported that China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) and the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) have signed a cooperation agreement for the construction of a 1,000 megawatt (MW) HPR1000 “Hualong One” reactor at the Chashma nuclear power plant in Punjab.

    Pakistan generates five percent of its electricity from four small 300 MW Chinese reactors at the Chashma plant and wants to boost nuclear capacity to 8,800 MW, or about 20 percent of power generation capacity, by 2030.

    China is already building two Hualong One reactors with a capacity of 1100 MW each near the port city of Karachi, which are expected to become operational in 2020 and 2021 respectively.


    PAEC chairman Muhammad Naeem told that PAEC was in the final stages of awarding contracts for Chasmah, which would take Pakistan’s nuclear capacity to about 5,000 MW when it is finished. He said Pakistan wanted to build at least 3-4 more big nuclear reactors by 2030.
     
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    yes Chashma 5 was always projected to be 1,000 MW based on K2 and K3

    We need atleast another 4 x 1,000 MW to reach our goal
     
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    Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Muhammad Naeem on Monday said the 1,100-megawatt (MW) Karachi Nuclear Power Complex-II (KANUPP-2) will commence operations in December 2020 and (KANUPP-3) (1,100 MW) in October 2021.

    While speaking at a seminar organized by the Centre for Peace, Security and Development Studies (CPSD) on Monday, Mr Naeem stated once the 1100MW Chashma-5 is completed, Pakistan intends to generate 8,800MW nuclear energy by 2030.

    PAEC chairman told that both the plants had a workable life of sixty-years, which could be elongated to eighty-years.

    He added, “Nuclear power plants are reliable having high availability and capacity factor, relatively environmentally friendly, and provide sustainability of electricity price having a low share of fuel cost.”

    Currently, the share of nuclear energy in Pakistan’s energy mix is 6% and generating power at an average cost of Rs 9.13 per kilowatt hour.

    At present, there are around 454 nuclear power plants being operated across 30 countries globally and have an 11% share of the total world electricity generation, whilst 54 plants in 17 countries are being built.



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    The new nuclear power plants i.e. After kanupp and chashnupp should be built mid country. Currently too many power plants are being built at or near karachi and in 3 years we will solve electricity production capacity problem for katachi at the least. Power for interior sindh is a long story as other than thar and the wind projects we do not have any upcoming big power projects in sindh which is due to many reasons including the availability of water for steam turbines.

    Keeping the water situation in mind i hope we build a 90 to 100 km sea water canal upto hyderabad. The canal can be made safe via reinforced concrete or concrete plus fiber mesh or pvc lining and can be used as a water source for a NPP with possible later use as a desalination plant for the population there. I know it is going to cost alot and that we dont have a commercially active desalination plant but this canal if built will solve lots of problem related to drinking water, energy production and consumption hot points. In short the benefits outweigh the investment hurdles and risks e.g. the whole hyderabad and kotri industrial estates plus adjoining population will benefit from a 1100 watt NPP plus more water can be used for agricultural purpose. The future expansion and possible transportation of electricity to areas in dadu, sanghar and khairpur districts will be relatively easier and cheaper.
    All it needs is to think outside the box and the will power to do so.
     
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    Lol you will save 100x by concreting the existing canals from river indus

    The flow of river indus is 110- 150maf while while nile shared by 5 countries is barely 50maf

    Pakistan wastes 20maf by dumping river water and 50maf by canal leakages
     
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    Welll most of the canals and water courses in punjab are already paved..U can do the same in sindh too but point is that still would not solve the water scarcity in sindh and rest of te country.. and the need to distribute ur energy producing areas..
     
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    KANUP 1 2019 mey decommissioned ho jaye ga ?
     
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    Lowering the generating costs and charging those that steal electricity would go along way to ending the circular debt. Any data on how much these plants will cost per kilowatt hour?
     
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    Karachi is getting 600 MWs from national grid ... After operationalization of nuclear plants electricity can be supplied in the reverse direction i.e. from Karachi to Sindh and to some areas of Balochistan ...

    We need to develop smaller cities otherwise our common people will remain under poverty ,,,, Our basic issue is education in lower cities we do not have skilled labor for industrilization ... Water is not that much of an issue all industrial understakings in Karachi are procuring much expensive tanker water so in any case desalination plant will still be cheaper for industries, however, the real issue unavalibility of skilled labor


     
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    THEY ARE NOT۔..you can read wapda feasibility studies on canal lining its open source google

    How would you lower cost
    Instead of open bididng or even decent terms unacceptably high returns have been offered
    E.g coal projects has return of 20% vs global average of 10 indias 12 and even pakistans 14% from 1998-2006 which were severely critized

    Only hope is that new projects are open and that in 5 years once coal goes through its debt payment cost will drop

    Only hope is to massively invest in thar coal and govt investment in hydro projects to drop the cost on average otherwise its gona stay around 8-10 cent which is still higher than regional average of 7 cents

    Had PMLN govt did competitive bidding in LNG and allowed KPK to get financing for small dams this wouldn't have been.issue
     
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    Firstly i said most of the canals not all.. The situation is far better than rest of the provinces..
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    I concur with u on the electricity cost. We have agreed for power plants with return in late 20s.. Thats criminal. I am more against the sahiwal coal plant, bin qasim power plant and upcoming plant in gawader... as they are based upon imported coal. The gawader coal power plant is not even super critical and thus prone to be more disastrous to the environment. We should devise a strategy to force the coal plants to mix local coal by 20 to 25 percent and thus decrease their electricity cost. Same way rLNG based power plants should be revisited and whatever cost reduction is possible should be done. Solar power plants should be set up via competitive bidding and the advancement in wind power warrants that we revisit the tariffs being offered.
    We can not compete in the world by producing expensive electricity.
     
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    Basically yes, The Government doubles down on coal and all new projects have to go through competitive bidding. We have tough years ahead to pay off these debts, and we need to get an increase in exports to cover the costs of borrowing at such a high cost. The only "benefit" will be the macroeconomic pressure these burdens will put on the government, will force their hand towards reforms. When these debts are paid off we will be a more efficient economy out of necessity.

    We need more exports, and prioritizing electricity for export earning industries over people's home is how China started out in the 80's and it is how I think the Prime Minister is thinking of turning this mess around for Pakistan.