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Nuclear Pakistan - credit where it is due

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by ghazi52, May 28, 2019.

  1. Brass Knuckles

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    Which would be used to kill the political opponents of the father of jamhoriyat
     
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  2. M. Sarmad

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    That's mostly propaganda by Zia regime (Masood Mahmood was surely a 'wrong choice' though), but that's another debate. Let's not derail this thread.
     
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    So you are saying Bhutto didn't killed his opponents
    Bhutto was the only dictator Pakistan ever had he ruled like a dictator
     
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    I see u like waffling.
     
  5. ghazi52

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    A heroes welcome..
    The team of Pakistani nuclear scientists who conducted nuclear tests on 28th of May 1998 coming back from test site and meeting the journalists..
    Due to secrecy most of the scientists were not known to the press and nobody knew their names.


     
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    #ThankYouMohsinOfPakistan
    #NuclearQadir
     
  7. M. Sarmad

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    Let's not forget to thank Mr. Samuel Martin Burke, one of the best career diplomats we ever had, who, as Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Canada (1959-61), signed the agreement for the peaceful uses of atomic energy which enabled Pakistan to purchase uranium from Canada. Before that, he was appointed in Washington when Pakistan had requested military assistance from the United States, and to earn American goodwill Burke and his English-born wife Louise undertook nationwide speaking tours... He successfully convinced USA and Canada of Pakistan’s need of nuclear reactors....

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  8. ghazi52

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    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi,

    Doesn't pakistan's journey start with Pinstech---because without it---there was no collection of brainpower of scientists to do the job---.
     
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  10. ghazi52

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    True. Started from Ayub Khan with PINSTECH and laid foundation of first Nuclear Power Plant Karachi, KANNUP.

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    Hi,

    1968-1970 is the time frame when all the top pakistani scientists started coming back to pakistan and took over their positions at Pinstech.

    Something was happening at that time---even before Bhutto came into power---.

    These scientists were all prepped---positioned and ready for the big job even before Bhutto made the 'decision' to go nuclear---.
     
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    When Allah wants to do something, Allah simply says : Kun.
     
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  13. ghazi52

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    All ground was in place before Bhutto.
    In 1965, Abdus Salam traveled to United States, where in a ceremony, Canada and Pakistan signed a nuclear energy pact with Canadian General Electric (now GE Canada) establishing the country's first nuclear plant. Per agreement, the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission's engineers and scientists led the construction of the project, while GE Canada provided funds and natural uranium fuel. Parvez Butt, a nuclear engineer, was the chief designer of the plant at the GE Canada's designing office. In 1966, construction started, and it was completed in 1971. On November 28, 1972 then-President Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, accompanied by Abdus Salam and the PAEC's newly appointed Chairman Munir Ahmad Khan, inaugurated the first unit of the Karachi Nuclear Plant.
     
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  14. M. Sarmad

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    Bhutto had been arguing for a nuclear Pakistan since early 1960's in Pakistan’s cabinet as well as publicly but Ayub Khan was focused towards conventional superiority and building strong alliance with the US. Ayub was a supporter of Eisenhower's 'Atom for Peace' program. When Glenn Seaborg, the chairman of the United States Atomic Energy Commission, informed Ayub Khan in 1967 that India might have gained the capability of producing nuclear weapons, Ayub Khan, for the first time, expressed his 'concern' but he remained inclined towards the US and well-received the US president later that year.

    The first thing Bhutto did after assuming office following the fall of Dhaka was to convene a meeting of nuclear scientists in Quetta (later moved to Multan) in Jan 1972 and task them to begin building a bomb. But the support for the nuclear weapons program was far from unanimous among the scientists who assembled at Multan. Neither Abdus Salam, nor Ishrat Usmani (head of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission) supported Bhutto's nuclear weapons program. Before that, the Bengali conflict contributed to an exodus of key scientists, technicians, and leaders from Pakistan, which had significantly stunted progress on the nuclear program. But Bhutto decided to go ahead with the Bomb despite all odds.

    In November 1972, ZAB decided to withdraw Pakistan from SEATO and then immediately established formal diplomatic relations with North Korea. Persistent pressure by the US compelled Canada and France to refuse to live up to the agreements they had with Pakistan. But in September, 1974, Bhutto had received a letter via Pakistan’s Ambassador in Netherlands from a Pakistani nuclear scientist, A.Q. Khan. Khan had gained knowledge of centrifuge-based enrichment processes by working at the Uranium Enrichment Consortium (UNRENCO) in Netherlands. The rest is history.
     
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    Hi,

    That was no propaganda---. One of the killers---an ASI was from my biradri and hometown---.
     
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