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Norouz at the tomb of Cyrus the Great

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  1. POPS

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    Sir i dont have much knowlegde of Persian culture ...what is Norouz /nine days when is it clebrated , whats its significance cause just owt of curiosity from today we Hindus also celebarate Navratra's/Nine days kindly do elaborate...Thanks
     
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    Its just the persian new year. lots of other countries also celebrate it.

    its been celebrated by Zoroastrians for thousands of years.

    Nowruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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  3. Rig Vedic

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    The main languages of Pakistan, Punjabi and Sindhi, are Sanskrit based languages, like Bengali, Marathi or Assamese.

    If Pakistan had retained its pre-Islamic culture they would not have been able to create a separate identity.

    The main thrust of Jinnah's two nation theory is that by changing their religion, Pakistanis became a part of a different civilization, which was in conflict with their pre-conversion civilization. On this basis, he demanded and obtained Pakistan from the departing British.

    Naturally, the British had their own strategic reasons to encourage Jinnah. Post-independence, the British role was taken over by the Americans.
     
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  4. p(-)0ENiX

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    First of all, happy new year to all the Iranians & others who celebrate Norouz. :)

    Isn't Sanskrit the language of the Aryans? Even though many languages of the northern portion of the sub-continent originate from Sanskrit, its mostly due to Aryan cultural influence that led to other nations adopting Sanskrit. Thus with the evolution of time all the various speakers of Sanskrit developed a unique dialect that in turn became a distinctly unique language.

    The point is that just because people speak languages with a common origin it does not mean that they share genetic similarities. I should know, I am the descendant of the Vedic Aryans. ;)

    Its true that the 2 nation theory focused on the difference of religion, but what do you think would have happened if a separate nation was demanded on the basis of these civilizations below? I am not implying that a demand for a separate nation would have succeeded on the basis of these civilizations, but I would still like the opinion of other members on this.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/CiviltàValleIndoMappa.png
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/IndoParthianMap.jpg
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Indo-ScythiansMap.jpg
     
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  5. Rig Vedic

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    Yes, Sanskrit is the language of those who called themselves Aryans, but they were not migrants from Central Asia, but expanding from the Ganga & Saraswati river valleys.

    In ancient Persia, there were two languages - old Persian, which was the native language, and Avestan, which came from the Balkh region of Northern Afghanistan, the birthplace of Zoroastrianism. The northern Afghans were in turn influenced by the Vedic culture of the Indian subcontinent. Old Persian and Avestan are quite different from each other. Avestan is very similar to Vedic Sanskrit, but not old Persian.

    See Koenraad Elst: A great book about the Great Book
     
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    Before this gets off-track, please leave Pakistan out of the discussion and stay on topic about Iran.

    Good pics about Nauroz.
     
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  7. Bhairava

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    I think you are only reiterating my point that Iranians absorbed Islam and redefined it to blend in their culture rather than getting absorbed by the idealogy with no connection of their past or ashamed of their pre-Islamic past, say for example Egyptians or even many subcontinentals. Even though the Muslim conquest may not have been against unique culture and identity, it did destroy the native culture and identity with vicious agenda in many a place. Glad that Iran did not have that misfortune.
     
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    Only a question -In the first picture something is kept on the Farsi flag and the flag is placed on the ground.Wouldn't it be disrespectful?
     
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    The following two quotes are remarks made by Bhairava on another thread on the Iranian government.
    Here is the thread url:
    http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ons-iran-sanctions-china-india-exposed-5.html

    Some Indians always try to exploit the differences between us Muslims in favor of their propaganda campaign to divide and rule. You will see this plenty on this forum as well as in real life where it is usually more covert.
     
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  10. Bhairava

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    What is the contradiction here ?

    Read properly to understand and fyi those statements dont contradict each other.
     
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    Your 'respect' for the nation and your disrespect for their government- the backbone of the nation & symbol of the peoples' will. Here is the contradiction.

    The usual strategy of a propagandist: we love you, we respect you, but we only hate your hated government (after all, isn't it a general knowledge that your government is just accidentally founded on a criminal ideology and don't we all know that its activities don't represent your will???)
     
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    I don't want to change the subject, but why would any Egyptian be ashamed of their pre-Islamic past ? Even till today we celebrate Sham-El-Neseem which marked the begining of the spring season in ancient Egypt. Egyptian culture till right now is very diff. than other Muslim countries, Islam didn't destroy any culture that existed before it. If anything, the Greeks in Egypt followed by the Romans are the reason for the loss of the ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphic lang. It was long gone when Arabs entered Egypt. Also, Coptic Egyptian was spoken in Egypt untill the 17th-18th centuries, and still spoken in every Egyptian church.
     
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    Iranian people, I admire your rich heritage. Persian civilization heavily enriched the Muslim civilization and maybe it's safe to say that it, in fact, didn't end with the fall of Sassanid empire, rather, discarding anti-Islamic elements, merged into Islam.


    This 'darkinsky' guy is another miserable chap, here he is pretending to be Islam incarnate, there spreading racist venom in some other threads, while all the time displaying Mexican flags, as if he's ashamed of his national identity, and taking sides according to convenience.
     
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    Really. How many Egyptians are proud of their great pre-Islamic heritage today? How many even know the names of the Pharaoh who built the great Pyramid?

     
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    You gotta be kidding me ? I hope you are not serious. Have you met an Egyptian before ? Have you ever been to Egypt ? Anyway, i find it really rude to change the subject of the thread, and i would hate to do that, especially to my Iranian friends. I understand you got some issues with Islam, but you really don't sound like you know what you talking about, peace!
     
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