What's new

Nomination of DG ISI is my authority: PM Imran Khan says in cabinet meeting today

Sage

SENIOR MEMBER
Jun 19, 2014
2,305
1
2,324
Country
Pakistan
Location
France
Only on the paper. It's PM that has direct control over armed forces through his ministry of defence.
But this is so wrong ....Like if the Prime Minister would not respect the constitution who else would...
 

HammerHead081

FULL MEMBER
Mar 12, 2019
732
-3
1,082
Country
Pakistan
Location
Norway
But this is so wrong ....Like if the Prime Minister would not respect the constitution who else would...
Why is it wrong? The military who are paid by the taxpayer to protect its borders is answerable to the elected leader of the people - the PM. Just like any other institute of the govt. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
 

VCheng

ELITE MEMBER
Sep 29, 2010
42,335
55
35,682
Country
Pakistan
Location
United States
Why is it wrong? The military who are paid by the taxpayer to protect its borders is answerable to the elected leader of the people - the PM. Just like any other institute of the govt. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
The idea is clearly understood, for sure. The pity is that the system is now destined to perpetuate its undermining this concept since the perversions have become standard operating procedures.
 

Signalian

PDF THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Aug 18, 2015
7,450
227
20,347
Country
Pakistan
Location
Australia
The story of what ifs.
What if IK has created a permanent rift with Bajwa over appointment of DG ISI.
What if Bajwa decides that process to oust IK's government has started now.
What if Bajwa decides to be Martial law admin when IK is sacked.
What if Bajwa then follows Musharraf's footsteps and stays in uniform for next 7-8 years.
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Good decision. If PM has to appoint some-one he should meet him/her before appointment.

so why didnt imran interview fiaz, when he was appointed? 3 n half yrs ago!

was that , not according to rules, or constitution!


or is now goining to be acording to rules ,and constitution!


when it smells like dung. its actually cow dung, -------not hugo boss d,au de toilette
This rule of Imran Khan apply only to ISI chief appointment, otherwise some one asked ImranKhan what's the business of Zulfi Bukhari and he replied he don't know.
1634400104070.png



cow dung is also 1200, ruppes now
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
I don't think so. He is just trying to follow the best practice left by someone ( Hazrat Umer) who he considers as much superior than him.


neither is imran( hazrat umer)
nor is bajwa( khalid bin waleed?


here,



oooper is dental baba

aur neechay.....


mental baba.......
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Looks like it’s not over yet then. Seems like IK is asserting himself?

imran will sign, the summary, before oct 25

even with his toe,s,, and keep working on same basic pay scale-----


imran forgot! every one sitting around him, hve been brought throw gate numer 4...

they need just a small wink to ditch imran, and board the next ship, from baba jee.. BAAZWALA
 

Jungibaaz

RETIRED MOD
Jul 4, 2010
8,162
108
16,917
Country
Pakistan
Location
United Kingdom
imran will sign, the summary, before oct 25

even with his toe,s,, and keep working on same basic pay scale-----

imran forgot! every one sitting around him, hve been brought throw gate numer 4...

they need just a small wink to ditch imran, and board the next ship, from baba jee.. BAAZWALA
One thing is for sure, ex DG ISI will be on his way before the end of November. How he gets there, and what sort relation the GHQ now has with IK is another matter. This is what happens when generals meddle in politics.
 

Rahil khan

FULL MEMBER
Dec 3, 2011
1,407
3
1,960
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
It's absolutely shocking to observe this thick cloud of uncertainty is gradually taking over our key institutions. What a mess this legendary Prime Minister has proven to be. 😡
 

BATMAN

BANNED
Mar 31, 2007
29,904
-28
20,022
Country
Pakistan
Location
Switzerland
The story of what ifs.
What if IK has created a permanent rift with Bajwa over appointment of DG ISI.
What if Bajwa decides that process to oust IK's government has started now.
What if Bajwa decides to be Martial law admin when IK is sacked.
What if Bajwa then follows Musharraf's footsteps and stays in uniform for next 7-8 years.
I hope non of it is true, but what IF.....

... it's Bajwa who has advised Imran Khan to reject General Nadeem's appointment as ISI chief... which is basically an institutional proposal, because Bajwa did not wanted to be identified as the one against the institutional recommendation.. after all Bajwa has the impression of a general politically aligned with Imran Khan.

... it is supreme leader, demanding from Imran Khan to tame ISI.. considering recently there was a protest against ISI in Tehran.

... Imran Khan decide to offer NRO to NS in exchange for joining hands against army /ISI, considering he was once ally of NS & Zardari vs Army during the rule of General Pervez Musharraf.

... Imran Khan request TTP to engage Pak army in new wave of terrorism, considering TTP consider him ally and spared him during the time he lead marches against Pervez Musharraf.

... Imran Khan order civil disobedience from his supporters, as he did in past.

... Imran Khan conspire to spike COVID virus /Dengue in Pakistan /Punjab. Very much doable, subject to intent, authority and resources, while Imran Khan surely command last two.

... Iran seize the opportunity and invoke Zanibyons and Fatimyons to trigger civil war in Pakistan!

... Biden /Kamla jumps in to the situation to save democracy in Pakistan.

.... Imran Khan start another diplomatic row with Saudi Arabia, all it needed is one tweet. As a consequence Saudi Arabia demand return of $6 billion and cut off diplomatic ties and trade of all sort.

... Iran carrying out terrorist activity in GCC, using Pakistani passport. creating situation where Pakistan army being blamed as an ally of Iranian terrorism in middle east region. After all, there exist tons of evidence, which already put Pakistan in circle of suspicion, e.g. SMQ's diplomatic activism and IK tweets, directly in conflict with sovereignty, security and foreign policy of GCC. Anti Arab propaganda on social media in general.
 
Last edited:

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
One thing is for sure, ex DG ISI will be on his way before the end of November. How he gets there, and what sort relation the GHQ now has with IK is another matter. This is what happens when generals meddle in politics.


REMEMBER the guru!

REMEMBER the guru!

The story of what ifs.
What if IK has created a permanent rift with Bajwa over appointment of DG ISI.
What if Bajwa decides that process to oust IK's government has started now.
What if Bajwa decides to be Martial law admin when IK is sacked.
What if Bajwa then follows Musharraf's footsteps and stays in uniform for next 7-8 years.


imran khan can be sacrificatorio ...................not the LT generals.


, imran khan will sign, on the DOTTED line,.................


we cant allow NISHAI.......... to dictate,
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
they will sitting out of his office for job interview :lol:


WILL IT be written, oral
or practical exam ?

............YAAR YEH PARCHA KUB OUT HO GA?

will the awaam be informed how many number each candidate got out of 1100!
I hope non of it is true, but what IF.....

... it's Bajwa who has advised Imran Khan to reject General Nadeem's appointment as ISI chief... which is basically an institutional proposal, because Bajwa did not wanted to be identified as the one against the institutional recommendation.. after all Bajwa has the impression of a general politically aligned with Imran Khan.

... it is supreme leader, demanding from Imran Khan to tame ISI.. considering recently there was a protest against ISI in Tehran.

... Imran Khan decide to offer NRO to NS in exchange for joining hands against army /ISI, considering he was once ally of NS & Zardari vs Army during the rule of General Pervez Musharraf.

... Imran Khan request TTP to engage Pak army in new wave of terrorism, considering TTP consider him ally and spared him during the time he lead marches against Pervez Musharraf.

... Imran Khan order civil disobedience from his supporters, as he did in past.

... Imran Khan conspire to spike COVID virus /Dengue in Pakistan /Punjab. Very much doable, subject to intent, authority and resources, while Imran Khan surely command last two.

... Iran seize the opportunity and invoke Zanibyons and Fatimyons to trigger civil war in Pakistan!

... Biden /Kamla jumps in to the situation to save democracy in Pakistan.

.... Imran Khan start another diplomatic row with Saudi Arabia, all it needed is one tweet.


Imran Khan request TTP to engage Pak army in new wave of terrorism, considering TTP consider him ally and spared him during the time he lead marches against Pervez Musharraf.


TTP ky imran khan keh abba jee ki hy?
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
WILL IT be written, oral
or practical exam ?

............YAAR YEH PARCHA KUB OUT HO GA?

will the awaam be informed how many number each candidate got out of 1100!




Imran Khan request TTP to engage Pak army in new wave of terrorism, considering TTP consider him ally and spared him during the time he lead marches against Pervez Musharraf.


TTP ky imran khan keh abba jee ki hy?


i guess now BAZZWWALA< realised, if

u bring a clown hoME u will get a fckng CIRCUS
 

Baghial

BANNED
Feb 17, 2017
4,871
-11
2,950
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Good decision. If PM has to appoint some-one he should meet him/her before appointment.


  • The person interviewing you had less than half or your qualifications when they got the job and will want twice what you have.
 

maithil

SENIOR MEMBER
May 21, 2010
2,291
-35
1,213
Country
India
Location
India
Is the party over?

POLITICS has gone into a tailspin and stakeholders could be heading back to the drawing board. Here are 10 key pointers:

  1. The relationship between PTI and the establishment is under unprecedented strain ever since Prime Minister Imran Khan refused to notify Lt Gen Nadeem Ahmad Anjum as the new DG ISI as announced by the ISPR on Oct 6, 2021. The strain is getting more intense by the day as the disagreement slowly but menacingly morphs into a stand-off. It may get resolved sooner or later, but the damage appears to have been done.
  2. The stand-off has also brought the army’s routine postings — announced on Oct 6 — to a standstill. This too may be unprecedented. Since the prime minister has not signed the notification for Lt Gen Nadeem Anjum to take charge as DG ISI, he has not relinquished charge as corps commander Karachi. Lt Gen Muhammad Saeed cannot therefore take charge as corps commander Karachi and Lt Gen Nauman Mahmood cannot relinquish charge as corps commander Peshawar to join as president National Defence University because Lt Gen Faiz Hameed cannot relinquish charge as DG ISI to take over as corps commander Peshawar. And round and round it goes for the others who received their posting orders 10 days ago. Things do not work like this in the army.
  3. Confusion exists whether the PM Office has received the summary containing three names for the appointment as DG ISI. There is a strange silence from the government. On Wednesday, ministers had confirmed the summary had been received and TV channels as well as newspapers ran the story. Military sources later denied the summary had been sent. In yet another unprecedented move, the names and photos of the three lieutenant generals supposedly presented for selection in the summary were flashed across TV screens. This made many within the establishment very uncomfortable. Now the PM wants to meet all three candidates so he can reject two three-star generals. This too is making many in the institution very uncomfortable.
  4. PTI ministers, parliamentarians and party members are in a daze. Their political compass seems to have gone all wonky and true north is becoming impossible to navigate. They suddenly find themselves in ‘Nawaz Sharif territory’ in reference to tension with the establishment and this is as alien to them as landing on Mars. The situation has all the hallmarks of situations past when governments started their slide. “Is this the beginning of the end?” asked a PTI senator this week. He may have been reflecting the fears of a majority of his colleagues.
    • Things were building up. Sources have confirmed that it was back in July this year that army chief Gen Qamar Bajwa had asked Prime Minister Imran Khan that he needed to make transfers and postings and Lt Gen Faiz Hameed would have to move out of the ISI as a routine. The PM had deferred the decision. The army chief raised the topic again in August and September and both times the PM said he would discuss the issue soon. In October, Gen Bajwa told the PM he could not wait much longer as three lieutenant generals were retiring and he had to order the transfers. Matters subsequently escalated into the events of the last 10 days. The stand-off continues.
    • Till 10 days back, PTI was dreaming of a second five-year term. Now many in the party are concerned how they can hang on till the next elections. Their existential fears are based on the following: (a) their wafer-thin majority in the National Assembly is dependent on their allies MQM, GDA and PML-Q and if the allies ditch them the party for them might be over; (b) many among their own members are those who won as independents and will now be sniffing the wind, (c) a large number of PTI ticket holders are pro-establishment politicians and if they were forced to choose between the two sides, no one is in doubt which side they will opt for; (d) one establishment official recently remarked: “all we have to do is step back.”
    • This rupture was not supposed to happen so soon. Now that it has, the opposition has also gone back to the drawing board. PML-N is possibly drawing the following conclusion at this stage: (a) no change in the National Assembly or in the Punjab Assembly can happen without PML-N as per the numbers; (b) bringing down the PTI government in Islamabad is not a difficult task if the establishment steps back and withdraws its crucial support — more difficult is to agree on who or what replaces it; (c) PML-N will not like to be part of any set-up in the centre between now and elections in 2023, but it can support a new coalition if it means the ouster of PM Imran Khan; (d) This means PML-N can drive a hard bargain for this support but not such a hard one that it becomes a deal-breaker because if the present set-up is packed off, PML-N will be the biggest game in town — again.
    • PM Khan would also consider his options: (a) refuse to step back and insist he appoints the DG ISI on his terms thereby sending a signal that he is the boss — regardless of the cost; (b) escalate further and appoint someone other than the person already announced; (c) send everyone packing home and call early elections; (d) get ousted and conjure up an anti-establishment narrative
    • None of these are good options knowing that PTI is burdened with: (a) weak parliamentary numbers and acute dependency on unreliable allies and members; (b) poor governance performance; (c) political isolation as a result of divisive politics; (d) shortage of anti-establishment space on the political spectrum in the presence of Nawaz Sharif.
    • A PTI member remarked this week: “Perhaps Nawaz was right all along.” Irony died a painful death.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 1, Members: 0, Guests: 1)


Top Bottom