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Pakistan needs to know , they view India as Equal invited india in G8 and offered them Nuclear knowledge and tech

They view Pakistan as a "Servant"

And this Mindset is the friction point for most Common People of Pakistan
 

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an independent investigation can be commissioned and consequences assigned to those in the wrong.
Absolutely never going to happen, no institution has the balls to implicate US in this conspiracy. Nor the bigwigs allow an investigation that might expose them as co-conspirators who bought politicians like they did against Benazir.
 

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My blood boils literally when I see the faces of these corrupt mafia on tv or news.

My parents, grandparents suffered in this system, even now in old age, they're forced to visit government offices, stand in long queues dozens of times to get their issues sorted out

F-16, visas, bank balances ki khatir 22 crore logon ka jeena haram mat karo. Paison ki ghulami se na sukoon milta hai, na izzat
 

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i think the mindset is such that even if God himself comes down and says that there was no conspiracy and IK lost his govt because of his arrogance and wrong moves, people won't believe

i am firmly believer (and i think i am entitled to do so) that there was never any conspiracy and that diplomatic correspondence was blown out of proportions for political gains, politically speaking it was brilliantly played as the last trump card, on the other hand it was STUPID and i think suicidal for opposition to try and get IK out when he is almost done with his tenure.

The only person GAINING from all this fiasco and mayhem is Imran Khan, people have forgotten all the failures, mismanagement and now are behind IK, even the people who were NOT his voters are now cheering for him and have sympathies, so like I said brilliantly played. IK and his team however miscalculated the outburst towards Army and I think this gonna bite them back.
You are of course entitled to do so but your firm belief is entirely misplaced. A few pages back I had put forward some questions to your so-called no conspiracy hypothesis which you never replied to making me believe that you are just here to push a particular narrative nothing else.


For which other cases do courts open at midnight?
Why were no government petitions taken while a petition of a common man was entertained?
Why Shahbaz Sharif was allowed to fully participate in the proceeding while in all other cases he fails to appear before the court on the pretext of falling health?
When was the last time the court enquired Shahbaz sharif about the guarantee he provided on behalf of his brother?
Why there was no sou-moto that proclaimed offenders, people with serious pending criminal charges cannot hold public offices?
What is the result of the presidential petition on horse-trading?


I can go on but let's first answer these, it will provide a clear understanding as to if there WAS any conspiracy or not.
 

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For which other cases do courts open at midnight?
Why were no government petitions taken while a petition of a common man was entertained?
Why Shahbaz Sharif was allowed to fully participate in the proceeding while in all other cases he fails to appear before the court on the pretext of falling health?
When was the last time the court enquired Shahbaz sharif about the guarantee he provided on behalf of his brother?
Why there was no sou-moto that proclaimed offenders, people with serious pending criminal charges cannot hold public offices?
What is the result of the presidential petition on horse-trading?


I can go on but let's first answer these, it will provide a clear understanding as to if there WAS any conspiracy or not.

sorry i missed this post of yours before

Regarding courts opening at mid-night, There have been few other instances as well, it is always done as drastic measure, in this particular scenario it was to give a clear indication that in case the previous order is not fulfilled than contempt of court proceedings would take place, i think if this was not done we would be in a situation of emergency or worst in martial law, this step was done to prevent that from happening.

I totally agree with you on the point of govt petition not being accepted, i am not aware why they were not accepted but certainly raises an eyebrow.

Regarding Shahbaz again a valid point, i personally think he should not be a PM, infact i think no one should hold any office of government including that of MPA/MNA if they have a case against them.

If you are referring to NS leaving the country, than NS left with mutual understanding of the govt, again i am of the opinion that why not improve our health system so that people have to travel to Pakistan for treatment not the other way around, on the way had i would say the same for the educational and social system of the country as well where our premiers kids are living and studying abroad which is wrong as well

Regarding horse trading, i personally think it's a dirty tactic but than again politics is a dirty game (thus i dislike it so much). It happens around other democracies as well and is termed as floor crossing but does gora version of it makes it right? i don't think so. PTI previously was indulged in the same tactics and that is equally wrong as well.

Thank you for the decently put post, normally people either resort to making fun by using laugh emoticon or resort to personal attacks.
 

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What else do you expect.

American brokered NRO 2 is loading. ( Condoleezza Rice / Jack Sullivan brokered the first NRO, the same thought process/ thinking is back in the white House.)

It is indeed a work of art how the Americans have weaponized Dynastic politics along with a few Mir Jaffars in the army to take effective control of the state.

I feel sorry for the dumb/gullible here who can't see what is happening right before their eyes, when it is the second time it is happening.


GHQ is running the show for dollars. America controls Pakistan mainly through mercenary Generals.


The Americans have perfected the British art of war against the Muslims ( especially Pakistan, just like British conquered the subcontinent).

Traitors.
 
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