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    No anti-aircraft weapons sent to 'our' Syrian rebels – Pentagon after downing of Russian jet
    Published time: 4 Feb, 2018 02:35Edited time: 4 Feb, 2018 04:59
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    A rebel holds a man-portable air-defense system during clashes in Syria in 2011 © Asmaa Waguih / Reuters
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    The US military has said no anti-aircraft weapons have been shipped to the militias it backs in Syria amid speculation the Russian Su-25 jet downed in Idlib, north-west Syria may have been shot down by a US-made missile.
    “The United States have not provided any of its allied forces in Syria with anti-aircraft weapons,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Adrian J.T. Rankine-Galloway told TASS. He said the US-led coalition is currently not engaged in any operations in the area where the jet was downed Saturday. He added that the coalition's combat efforts are “geographically orientated on the current fight with Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS, ISIL) in eastern Syria.”

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    The Russian Defense Ministry said earlier the jet was attacked from the ground by rebels possibly using a man-portable air-defense system (MANPADS) in the designated ceasefire zone in Idlib province. The Pentagon will study “the veracity of the statements” put forward by the Russian military to ensure security of its coalition allies, Rankine-Galloway added.

    Some Russian legislators and experts interviewed by local media voiced concerns that the weapons may have its origins in the West and then smuggled through a neighboring country to Syria. The deputies urged a thorough investigation to trace the air defense system's origin.

    The pilot, identified in some reports as Major Roman Filippov, ejected from the stricken aircraft and parachuted to the ground. It's believed the officer was engaged in a firefight with militants before being killed. Purported images of his personal belongings, including his gun and a recommendation for a state honor, have surfaced on social media. As did footage of militants shouting “Allahu Akbar” (“God is great”) at the sight of the jet crashing and militants taking selfies with the body of the slain pilot.

    The Russian ministry, in cooperation with Turkey, is now trying to retrieve his body. The Tahrir al-Sham extremist group, which has links to the Al-Nusra terrorist group, claimed responsibility for the attack. However, posts and videos of the downed Russian plane appeared on the social media accounts of the Jaysh al-Nasr militant group which is affiliated with the Free Syrian Army.

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    The US has repeatedly denied it had shipped portable air defense missile systems to the rebels, brushing off Moscow’s concerns in the process. The 2017 National Defense Authorization Act enabled the Pentagon to authorize shipments of anti-aircraft weapons to Syrian rebels for it to be used “against aircraft of one side only.”

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    [​IMG]US MANPAD supplies should worry Pentagon, not ‘small arms' seized in Palmyra – Russian military
    The Russian Defense Ministry argued that if such weapons are brought into Syria, they could easily fall into the hands of IS and other terrorists.

    The Pentagon then denied it had any plans to send the weapons.

    The 2018 defense act outlines significant directives pertaining to MANPADS deployment in Syria. Section 1227 of the bill states that in order to provide air-defense systems to the “vetted Syrian opposition,” the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State must first inform the congressional committee; describe in detail the location of the group; its intelligence assessment; the number of devices to be shipped; as well as an “explanation of the purpose and expected employment” of the defense systems.


    https://www.rt.com/usa/417811-pentagon-no-manpads-rebels/
     
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    The "our" word is extremely funny :lol:

    Americans are quietly admitting those terrorists are their supported terrorists not Syrian people
     
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    Its a very bad news for Qatar and UAE , it will put their air travel and their cargoes at risk .
    I wonder why our American friends want to disconnect all trade routes to EU so badly .what will they achieve by pushing us towards China and India ?
     
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    They have pics of old 9K32M. From where they got these Russian made manpads ?
     
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    I didn't do it RAJOOOO!!!!
     
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    From the Zionist Kiev, Czech, Romanian, Hungarian and Bulgarian regimes. All ex-soviet arms being used by these terrorists are procured via the black market in eastern Europe, paid for by the Gulfy's. All arranged by the CIA.

    Iran and Russia will find out soon who pulled this stunt:

    Russian MPs vow to investigate origin of MANPAD used in downing jet in Syria
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    A militant monitors the sky holding a FN-6 man-portable air-defense system (MANPADS) in the Syrian village of Teir Maalah, on the northern outskirts of the western city of Homs, April 20, 2016. (Photo by AFP)


    Senior Russian lawmakers have urged the country to probe the origin of the man-portable air-defense system (MANPAD), which was reportedly used by Takfiri terrorists to down a Russian jet over Syria.

    Russia’s Defense Ministry confirmed in a statement on Saturday that the Su-25 fighter jet had been shot down in Syria’s northwestern province of Idlib.

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    PressTV-Russia strikes back after jet downed, pilot killed in Syria
    A Russian warplane is downed in Syria's north with its pilot killed in fighting after the incident.

    Citing preliminary data it said the jet had been downed by a MANPAD. The pilot had parachuted down into the area controlled by Jabhat Fateh al-Sham Takfiri outfit, formerly known as al-Nusra Front, but was killed during a confrontation with militants from an unspecified group.

    Russian military planes retaliated afterwards by targeting the Nusra-controlled area of Idlib and killing more than 30 terrorists.

    "Certainly, we will investigate, including a great many things: from the type of the MANPADS to the circumstances of the Su-25 downing," Frants Klintsevich, the first deputy chair of the Russian Federal Council’s Defense Committee told Interfax. "The loss of one aircraft is nothing, but politically, it has great significance and far-reaching consequences," he added.

    MP Dmitry Sablin, the coordinator of the Russia-Syria parliamentary friendship group, said, "We have information that the MANPADS used to bring down our jet was brought into Syria from a neighboring country several days ago."

    "Countries from whose territory weapons arrive, that are then used against Russian servicemen, must understand that this will not go unpunished," he told the agency.

    Deputy head of the State Duma’s Defense Committee, Yury Shvytkin, told Russia’s RIA news agency he was inclined to believe that the "MANPADS origins were linked with Western countries."

    A 2017 military spending bill, signed under former US President Barack Obama, allowed supply of such weapons to the militants fighting the Syrian government.

    In September 2016, Reuters cited an unnamed US official as saying that Washington “has kept large numbers of such man-portable air defense systems, or MANPADS, out of Syria by uniting Western and Arab allies behind channeling training and infantry weapons” to anti-Damascus militants.

    “The Saudis have always thought that the way to get the Russians to back off is what worked in Afghanistan 30 years ago – negating their air power by giving MANPADS to the Mujahideen,” it quoted another American official as saying.

    Members of the Ansar al-Islam Front were shown in a video posted in November 2016, parading a cache of shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles, the first evidence of the weapons being supplied to militants after an expected relaxing of US restrictions.

    Russia has been lending aerial support to Syria’s counter-terrorism operations since September 2016.

    The United States and its allies, including regional ally Saudi Arabia, however, have been backing the militants against Damascus since the onset of the crisis.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/04/551213/Syria-Russia-MANPAD-Sukhoi-United-States
     
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    I wonder what would happen to US forces in Afghanistan if Russia starts supplying Talibaan with Air Defence systems!!
     
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    Maybe because EU became their colony after WW2!!!? American friends!!! (( :what: )) are buying Russian LNG and at the same time imposes sanctions on EU companies, condemns importing of Russian by EU. Point is clear here, EU is their barking dog, add Macron on top of the list :sarcastic:,

    They are pushing the whole world to abandon dollar, best thing to happen

    Putin has said that a long time ago, let's wait and see
     
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    Hope they do.
     
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    And what will happen if these idiots smuggle their new toys into Iraq , Iran or Turkey and they start shooting down airplanes there ?

    All they need is a single donkey plus a single idiot with a MANPAD plus someone who knows how to smuggle things at the borders to show the way .

    Now its possible to ruin countries trades and relationships with a little bit money for some idiots .
    Thank you USA :usflag: . once again you did it !
     
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    May be Russia should provide a few to Afghan Talibans too
     
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    Our rebels? Pentagon admission, ICJ can investigate war crimes against USA?