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Ra's al Ghul

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hello bros.

i dont know where to post this ,so i am just posting it here. my question is for those people who are already married to a person relating to other nationality/country.

i am not asking for some personal marriage question here.

i am simply asking about the difficulties and process, like how to invite her to pakistan, on which kind of visa, thn how to get permenant visa for her, how do i register the nikah, do we have to share copies to her country embassy, and do i need to report to the police for it and other documents etc etc.

she is from far-east-asia, she cant understand my language, we both communicate in english only. she is ready to move with me in pakistan.

becoz its a big decision of life, so if someone can share the pros and cons of Interracial marriage . i will be thankful to them.
 

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But that's just me!

I'm sure you'll get some help soon
and all the best to the both of you,

:tup: Tay.
 

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hello bros.

i dont know where to post this ,so i am just posting it here. my question is for those people who are already married to a person relating to other nationality/country.

i am not asking for some personal marriage question here.

i am simply asking about the difficulties and process, like how to invite her to pakistan, on which kind of visa, thn how to get permenant visa for her, how do i register the nikah, do we have to share copies to her country embassy, and do i need to report to the police for it and other documents etc etc.

she is from far-east-asia, she cant understand my language, we both communicate in english only. she is ready to move with me in pakistan.

becoz its a big decision of life, so if someone can share the pros and cons of Interracial marriage . i will be thankful to them.
I married my wife in the UK. As long as you're a Pakistani and have a Nadra card then it's no problem. She can come with you on a visit visa as your wife. Bring all your documents with you. In Islamabad there is a place near D chowk where they specialise the facilitation of foreigners. Go there apply for a Nadra card for your wife. You will be her guarantor. Within a week she will have a Nadra card. No problem at all. Cost about 130 USD. Make sure you bring the marriage certificate and it had to be attestedm
 

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@Ra's al Ghul

Follow these steps ..

1- First Ask your Partner to apply for a Visit Visa from Embassy , in order to do that you need to send her a Invitation letter , if you are in Karachi go to Civic Center and go to the shop right next to civic center they will print it out for you ( edited with information you provide ) than they will attest it . Send it to her and ask her to attached it with Visa application .

2- when your Partner is in Pakistan ,there are two ways to get married .. 1) go to any Civil Court and hire a Lawyer ask him to prepare a Affidavit of Freewill . that Affidavit will be attested by a Magistrate ( judge ) and he will allow you to marry her ( Non Pakistani ) only than you can have a Nikkah or any other legalized Marriage.. 2) You can go to court with her, and have your wedding over there ( Civil/Session ) courts have separate Place for marriage with Imam .

3-After you are married have your Nikkah nama Registered from the Imam . I would suggest ask for English Nikkah Paper it will help you a lot , After you get it registered , than go to NADRA and apply for a Marriage Certificate ( 2000rs ) and so your marriage will be registered and updated in NADRA records .

4- Optional ...If you are planning to move with your wife in his country , make sure you get birth certificate ( Not the one your hospital give you, there is another detailed Birth certificate Issued by NADRA )

5- If your Wife is planning to take Shahdah ( Oath ) than make sure you tell her before and ask her permission , because the magistrate and imam will ask your wife separately if she was forced into marriage or accepting Islam , If your wife is Christian or Jew means Ahl-e-Kibtab , People of book than you can get married without converting her , in my Case my Took Shahdah Willingly .

Hope this answer your question , for any information you can contact me , All the very best in your life :)

Ps. This process i used to bring my American spouse to Pakistan, rules and regulations may vary from country to country .


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I cant say pros and cons about having a interracial marriage my friend but i have one suggestion , Don't ever lose your identity as a Muslim and Pakistani , and ask her that even if she move with you let her keep who she is .. Pros can be you have to experience different kinds of cultures , festivals , food and life style .. Cons can be relatives who will be crazy about marrying an outsider or non Muslim .. Questions will be raised about what she eats ( pork and Alcohol ) and your future kids and their religion ..
my advice is to settle all these major things before hand so you don't have to worry about any future conflict or you both can face relatives and hard questions together ..

before i agreed to marry my White Non Muslim girl , i have talked and discussed three things which she agreed on unconditionally ..
1- Kids will be Raised as Muslims
2- No pork and Alcohol Allowed in house
3- Moderate Clothing
 
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Ra's al Ghul

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Pros : Love.
Cons : None.

But that's just me!

I'm sure you'll get some help soon
and all the best to the both of you,

:tup: Tay.
@Starlord

Jani...Explain karo thora :)
I married my wife in the UK. As long as you're a Pakistani and have a Nadra card then it's no problem. She can come with you on a visit visa as your wife. Bring all your documents with you. In Islamabad there is a place near D chowk where they specialise the facilitation of foreigners. Go there apply for a Nadra card for your wife. You will be her guarantor. Within a week she will have a Nadra card. No problem at all. Cost about 130 USD. Make sure you bring the marriage certificate and it had to be attestedm
thanks for the reply bros. :)

@Ra's al Ghul

Follow these steps ..

1- First Ask your Partner to apply for a Visit Visa from Embassy , in order to do that you need to send her a Invitation letter , if you are in Karachi go to Civic Center and go to the shop right next to civic center they will print it out for you ( edited with information you provide ) than they will attest it . Send it to her and ask her to attached it with Visa application .

2- when your Partner is in Pakistan ,there are two ways to get married .. 1) go to any Civil Court and hire a Lawyer ask him to prepare a Affidavit of Freewill . that Affidavit will be attested by a Magistrate ( judge ) and he will allow you to marry her ( Non Pakistani ) only than you can have a Nikkah or any other legalized Marriage.. 2) You can go to court with her, and have your wedding over there ( Civil/Session ) courts have separate Place for marriage with Imam .

3-After you are married have your Nikkah nama Registered from the Imam . I would suggest ask for English Nikkah Paper it will help you a lot , After you get it registered , than go to NADRA and apply for a Marriage Certificate ( 2000rs ) and so your marriage will be registered and updated in NADRA records .

4- Optional ...If you are planning to move with your wife in his country , make sure you get birth certificate ( Not the one your hospital give you, there is another detailed Birth certificate Issued by NADRA )

5- If your Wife is planning to take Shahdah ( Oath ) than make sure you tell her before and ask her permission , because the magistrate and imam will ask your wife separately if she was forced into marriage or accepting Islam , If your wife is Christian or Jew means Ahl-e-Kibtab , People of book than you can get married without converting her , in my Case my Took Shahdah Willingly .

Hope this answer your question , for any information you can contact me , All the very best in your life :)

Ps. This process i used to bring my American spouse to Pakistan, rules and regulations may vary from country to country .


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I cant say pros and cons about having a interracial marriage my friend but i have one suggestion , Don't ever lose your identity as a Muslim and Pakistani , and ask her that even if she move with you let her keep who she is .. Pros can be you have to experience different kinds of cultures , festivals , food and life style .. Cons can be relatives who will be crazy about marrying an outsider or non Muslim .. Questions will be raised about what she eats ( pork and Alcohol ) and your future kids and their religion ..
my advice is to settle all these major things before hand so you don't have to worry about any future conflict or you both can face relatives and hard questions together ..

before i agreed to marry my White Non Muslim girl , i have talked and discussed three things which she agreed on unconditionally ..
1- Kids will be Raised as Muslims
2- No pork and Alcohol Allowed in house
3- Moderate Clothing

Thanks for the detailed reply bro. i will surely keep in touch with you in future.
i want to ask few more questions.

is 3 months visit visa is enough for marriage and to prepare all kinds of documents ?

i want to know once she arrived on visit visa, i have to register her name in foriegn registering police office or not ?

shes willingly to change her religion and name ,i know name dosnt need to be changed but i want to know some legal aspect of it.
before marriage, what about her name, if she wants to change her name, becoz thn it will effect his passport and other traveling / diplomas / degrees / documents etc. or should we do all this (name changing etc ) after marriage ? or name changing isnt a good idea. ( in her case , her name sounds very much christian ) i dont know what name should get registered in nikah nama and all new Papers/IDs documents etc. if i am not wrong the name cant be sounds like christian in nikah nama.

what should we apply for in NADRA with nationality ? i mean can we change her name for new NADRA ID etc
will she be able to open a bank account or apply for job, once she gt the new NADRA/Nationality ID. (be it with old or new name )

i will be waiting for your reply bro.
no need to hurry, just give me reply whenever you are free.
thanks again.
 

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is 3 months visit visa is enough for marriage and to prepare all kinds of documents ?
Visit Visa is issued for 3 months Maximum .. and of course its more than enough .

i want to know once she arrived on visit visa, i have to register her name in foriegn registering police office or not ?
No, You don't have to .. when you ask her to apply for visa make sure you give a Invitation letter which will be on a Affidavit paper .. you can search about sample Invitation letter on Google, edit it with your information and have it notified/Attested .

shes willingly to change her religion and name ,i know name dosnt need to be changed but i want to know some legal aspect of it.
before marriage, what about her name, if she wants to change her name, becoz thn it will effect his passport and other traveling / diplomas / degrees / documents etc. or should we do all this (name changing etc ) after marriage ? or name changing isnt a good idea. ( in her case , her name sounds very much christian ) i dont know what name should get registered in nikah nama and all new Papers/IDs documents etc. if i am not wrong the name cant be sounds like christian in nikah nama.
Personally i would suggest don't go for Name changing issue now, cause it far bigger headache than you are expecting .. and according to Islamic Rules any Muslim can marry a Christian or Jew ( people of book ) so her name is not a issue .. as for telling your parents and relatives after she accept Islam , give her a Islamic name in front of your relatives and Imam ..
A Nikkah can be done with her Christian name, in my nikkah paper my Wife has her old name not the Islamic name i give her ..

what should we apply for in NADRA with nationality ? i mean can we change her name for new NADRA ID etc
will she be able to open a bank account or apply for job, once she gt the new NADRA/Nationality ID. (be it with old or new name )
In order to have her get an CNIC card or Passport , you have to Officially change her name and she might ( Not sure ) has to go back to her Country and have it changed from all Educational and their Passport+ID cards .. it will be a lengthy process but Best of luck bro .

Hope this answer your questions .
 

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hello bros.

i dont know where to post this ,so i am just posting it here. my question is for those people who are already married to a person relating to other nationality/country.

i am not asking for some personal marriage question here.

i am simply asking about the difficulties and process, like how to invite her to pakistan, on which kind of visa, thn how to get permenant visa for her, how do i register the nikah, do we have to share copies to her country embassy, and do i need to report to the police for it and other documents etc etc.

she is from far-east-asia, she cant understand my language, we both communicate in english only. she is ready to move with me in pakistan.

becoz its a big decision of life, so if someone can share the pros and cons of Interracial marriage . i will be thankful to them.
This is Pakistan tourism section you post wrong thread in wrong section :hitwall: @The Eagle , @waz please move this thread to general disscussion section thank you:hitwall:
 

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why do you always keep banging your head?
This is Pakistan tourism section you post wrong thread in wrong section :hitwall: @The Eagle , @waz please move this thread to general disscussion section thank you:hitwall:
sorry bro for posting on wrong thread. :)

Visit Visa is issued for 3 months Maximum .. and of course its more than enough .



No, You don't have to .. when you ask her to apply for visa make sure you give a Invitation letter which will be on a Affidavit paper .. you can search about sample Invitation letter on Google, edit it with your information and have it notified/Attested .



Personally i would suggest don't go for Name changing issue now, cause it far bigger headache than you are expecting .. and according to Islamic Rules any Muslim can marry a Christian or Jew ( people of book ) so her name is not a issue .. as for telling your parents and relatives after she accept Islam , give her a Islamic name in front of your relatives and Imam ..
A Nikkah can be done with her Christian name, in my nikkah paper my Wife has her old name not the Islamic name i give her ..



In order to have her get an CNIC card or Passport , you have to Officially change her name and she might ( Not sure ) has to go back to her Country and have it changed from all Educational and their Passport+ID cards .. it will be a lengthy process but Best of luck bro .

Hope this answer your questions .
thanks for the detailed answer bro. your reply is a great help for me. i will surely keep in touch with you if i need to ask something regarding this issue.
thanks again. i really appreciated it.
thank you bro. :-)
 

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hello bros.

i dont know where to post this ,so i am just posting it here. my question is for those people who are already married to a person relating to other nationality/country.

i am not asking for some personal marriage question here.

i am simply asking about the difficulties and process, like how to invite her to pakistan, on which kind of visa, thn how to get permenant visa for her, how do i register the nikah, do we have to share copies to her country embassy, and do i need to report to the police for it and other documents etc etc.

she is from far-east-asia, she cant understand my language, we both communicate in english only. she is ready to move with me in pakistan.

becoz its a big decision of life, so if someone can share the pros and cons of Interracial marriage . i will be thankful to them.
Never get married. They are all alike and they are all evil.

Infact the concept of marriage comes from ape culture.

True story
 

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Never get married. They are all alike and they are all evil.

Infact the concept of marriage comes from ape culture.

True story
sir , thn whats the second option in your view ?
just asking as you have suggest me to not get marry.
 

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