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Heramandi ki pedawar kaha is ney Pakistan ney is set taluk tora us key baad Butt ney isko bulaya
Baki tumhari bongian hein
why dont they bring back altaf chacha, or same criminals ..............but different law is applied to them....
maybe read the statement of ssp roa anwar-he already spilled the beans, on who brought, the people in dalla,s .to be killed by him in false terrorists encounters,
where is he now-------
hahha enjoying his life ,

and u r running behind the rabbit again,
 

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Agreed, as per your comment, then was Jinnah a true leader. Who is now to lead the scattered, shredded, divided, chaotic masses? Imran khan showed he is not strong or capable enough. Who else has the charisma, character, wisdom, honesty, determination, resilience of Quaid today?

During that time enemy could be easily be identified as they were from other nations and religion. Now the enemy is among us well blended we would need stronger determination, greater sacrifice and a powerful honest leader. Where are those ingredients??? Who is to lead us then!
Look, My message is. Look at the bigger picture. You are familiar with picture jigsaw pieces that you use to make the bigger picture.

Lets all see the bigger picture. Because when you mention underlying problems hunger, justice, law and order. they exist even here in Britain!

The bigger picture, The bigger picture. Please lets see the bigger picture.

If you stand to wait for a leader then you are wasting time. cant each person play a part in the bigger picture? No leader is leader is leader without the support but until you find leader why cant all of you do without leadership?

many movements began without leadership and still succeeded. because their goal was the bigger picture.
the same madarchood nawaz was breast fed by , harami ZIA,,, ALL WHT was planted by him, are full grown trees now, ,,look around, ,,,,,,,,u will find a star on every shoulders of these ..
that is another resorting to default. at that time zia was peo. today zardari is peo. mian is now making this bc afghani its peo.

make anyone its peo if it means it can be installed back in Pakistan.
 

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Yes central punjab pays it bills
So it has to be treated differently...

Treated superiorly..


Forget that for decades baluchustan provides all gas to "central punjab" and sindh today to punjab and KPK 6000mw through hydro

Reality is that IT IS FACT that these provinces would have DONE BETTER if independent because of revenue they provide yet the THE BLAME FALLS ON THEM

KPK for example is told u dont pay bills but its demand is 1000mw and its electricity production from free hydro is 6000+

This superiorty vomplex of central punjab means that south punjab and other rpovinves are the poorest while lahore . enjoys a poorly planned 3b dollars metro...irony is it was built so haphazradly that it cant even pay the running expenses
Never the less..it is central punjab 100 seats that decides the outcome of election as we just need 137 to form a govt
You've been grossly misinformed. Punjab gets less than what it contributes to the national exchequer. The 18th amendment does not recognize agriculture produce as natural resource thus effectively denying Punjab province the control of its own resources.

Define "Central Punjab"... As for making South Punjab a separate province, the principal source of income for provinces is land revenues and tax on agricultural income and luxuries etc. Provincial governments are heavily dependent on the Center that has all the important sources of revenues under its jurisdiction and which distributes more than 80% funds from the divisible pool among the provinces on the basis of population. Even if South Punjab is separated from North, there are hardly any chances of 'economic growth' as its population is less than 30% of Punjab's total population and it already receives more than 30% of Punjab's total budget for development. Not much is going to change for them even if South Punjab becomes a separate province except that the economic disparity between the rich and the poor, and the huge investments in infrastructure (required for administering/running a new province) can very well make the situation even worse. Rhetoric aside, creating new provinces without settling the "Federation vs Province" debate is pointless, at least from the economic point of view.

Punjab was the richest province even before the British take over of India. It's not that Punjab became rich after the creation of Pakistan by eating up other provinces' resources. That's baseless propaganda
 

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What do patwari scrap dealer , janitor or blacksmith got to with the elite thugs of pmln let out by an equally elite thug party? The class consciousness displayed by burgers is downright disgusting. Despite knowing pretty well that they are up against the capitalists, the same class which they essentially belong to conveniently scape goat the lower strata of society to feel inqilabi.


This could be one major reason burgers failed to mobilise the massess in favour of pti coz they simply hate the downtrodden. I mean electables can only coerce folks tribal kp , interior sindh and South punjab but urban sindh and rest of the country is a different ball game
@The Eagle is it ok to call patwaris harami?
گورباچوف کو بھی "روسی" اس وقت تک تبدیلی کی علامت سمجھتے رہے جب تک وہ روس کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کر کے رفوچکر نہیں ہو گیا۔
 

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why dont they bring back altaf chacha, or same criminals ..............but different law is applied to them....
He is a British national and an asset that Britain refuses to hand over but I guess you forgot how his entire network here was brutally cracked through state action
maybe read the statement of ssp roa anwar-he already spilled the beans, on who brought, the people in dalla,s .to be killed by him in false terrorists encounters
The guy who just wanted to complete quota to please provincial government for reward?
 

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You've been grossly misinformed. Punjab gets less than what it contributes to the national exchequer. The 18th amendment does not recognize agriculture produce as natural resource thus effectively denying Punjab province the control of its own resources.

Vote lo ,mazzay kro jb kuch na banay to trend follow krty hoy dump it on the 65%
 

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گورباچوف کو بھی "روسی" اس وقت تک تبدیلی کی علامت سمجھتے رہے جب تک وہ روس کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کر کے رفوچکر نہیں ہو گیا۔
Garbachov ney Soviet Union nahi tora jo dihayon sey policies chal rahi thien uska phal uskey dor mein nikla

Stalin was the worst soviets had to offer baki mulk torney ki baat wo nahi karein jinki nani kareema baloch key liye anso bahati hy
 

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Look, My message is. Look at the bigger picture. You are familiar with picture jigsaw pieces that you use to make the bigger picture.

Lets all see the bigger picture. Because when you mention underlying problems hunger, justice, law and order. they exist even here in Britain!

The bigger picture, The bigger picture. Please lets see the bigger picture.

If you stand to wait for a leader then you are wasting time. cant each person play a part in the bigger picture? No leader is leader is leader without the support but until you find leader why cant all of you do without leadership?

many movements began without leadership and still succeeded. because their goal was the bigger picture.

that is another resorting to default. at that time zia was peo. today zardari is peo. mian is now making this bc afghani its peo.

make anyone its peo if it means it can be installed back in Pakistan.
I have already talked about bigger picture here a lot today.

As per British gift of democracy, there is no free will of the people. All you can do is choose a lesser evil from the bunch and hope for the best. Democracy is the name of continuity and cosmetic changes only. If you have to fight against that corrupt well dug in relentless status quo, it becomes entirely another ball game.
Only revolutionists can do that job not the democrats.

See what happened to our country when we tried to bring change in our country through votes? That status quo only grew stronger and have become even shamelessly bolder.

All we can do is to raise awareness among majority of illetrate poor people who haven't the capability of considering anything else but how to fetch their next meal! The society is divided into thousands of little pieces like ethnicity, caste, locality, religious sect, socio-economic statuses, personal interests etc. All we can do is raise our voice as much as we can and spread awareness among those majority of pathetic poor, hungry patriotic but equally illetrate and idiot Pakistanis.

The powers of status quo are very efficient to keep us divided, scattered and brewing inside fights among general population for whatever the reasons it might be, they don't care as long as we keep fighting each other, their motive is served.
 

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I have already talked about bigger picture here a lot today.

As per British gift of democracy, there is no free will of the people. All you can do is choose a lesser evil from the bunch and hope for the best. Democracy is the name of continuity and cosmetic changes only. If you have to fight against that corrupt well dug in relentless status quo, it becomes entirely another ball game.
Only revolutionists can do that job not the democrats.

See what happened to our country when we tried to bring change in our country through votes? That status quo only grew stronger and have become even shamelessly bolder.

All we can do is to raise awareness among majority of illetrate poor people who haven't the capability of considering anything else but how to fetch their next meal! The society is divided into thousands of little pieces like ethnicity, caste, locality, religious sect, socio-economic statuses, personal interests etc. All we can do is raise our voice as much as we can and spread awareness among those majority of pathetic poor, hungry patriotic but equally illetrate and idiot Pakistanis.

The powers of status quo are very efficient to keep us divided, scattered and brewing inside fights among general population for whatever the reasons it might be, they don't care as long as we keep fighting each other, their motive is served.
again, you are talking about the sideshow. this that other. I guess you choose to kick rocks.
 

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again, you are talking about the sideshow. this that other. I guess you choose to kick rocks.
All I could understand from your comments is you wish is patriotic Pakistanis somehow pull off a massive protest on the streets and demand about their rights????

First, you define your "main show". What really is it? Then we could argue about later on.
 

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You've been grossly misinformed. Punjab gets less than what it contributes to the national exchequer. The 18th amendment does not recognize agriculture produce as natural resource thus effectively denying Punjab province the control of its own resources.

Define "Central Punjab"... As for making South Punjab a separate province, the principal source of income for provinces is land revenues and tax on agricultural income and luxuries etc. Provincial governments are heavily dependent on the Center that has all the important sources of revenues under its jurisdiction and which distributes more than 80% funds from the divisible pool among the provinces on the basis of population. Even if South Punjab is separated from North, there are hardly any chances of 'economic growth' as its population is less than 30% of Punjab's total population and it already receives more than 30% of Punjab's total budget for development. Not much is going to change for them even if South Punjab becomes a separate province except that the economic disparity between the rich and the poor, and the huge investments in infrastructure (required for administering/running a new province) can very well make the situation even worse. Rhetoric aside, creating new provinces without settling the "Federation vs Province" debate is pointless, at least from the economic point of view.

Punjab was the richest province even before the British take over of India. It's not that Punjab became rich after the creation of Pakistan by eating up other provinces' resources. That's baseless propaganda
Wrong
I am not an idiot
Infact federal govt subsidizes wheat
Dont believe me check international rates and local wheat rates..almost same these days

Is the hydro power for example or gas same price as international price???

No

Your argument would have worked if wheat was sold at 1000rs per 40 kg to all pakistanis
 

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All I could understand from your comments is you wish is patriotic Pakistanis somehow pull off a massive protest on the streets and demand about their rights????

First, you define your "main show". What really is it? Then we could argue about later on.
just forget it. you ain't gonna understand it. I made it simple. cannot make it simpler.
 

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The point is why is CENTRAL punjab treated differently not about distribution of resources
Punjab isnt getting less or more.

Remebr 18 amwndent is just 10 yrs old
And prime formula is still population(which is the right apporach)

Also punjab gets KPK share of water FOR FREE
 
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Such a waste of bandwidth, at least our brothers with Anti-MNS views had a nice time.
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Nawaz, Afghan NSA meeting sends shock-wave through the rulers: Maryam
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Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) vice president Maryam Nawaz on Saturday said that the meeting between former prime minister and party supremo Nawaz and Afghan National Security Adviser (NSA) has made the rulers worried.

Addressing a public gathering in Sialkot on Saturday, she said that the world talks to the power of people, adding that the power of the people is behind the party supremo.

The PML-N vice president expressed pity over mental condition of the man suffering from Nawaz-phobia and said that the ballot box thieves shouldn’t be given chance to run.

“July 28 is a day of accountability for those who stole the gas, electricity, sugar and flour of the people of Sialkot,” she said and added whether the rulers steal ballot boxes or votes, the nation has decided that Nawaz Sharif is their past, present and future.

Maryam Nawaz went on to say that the umpire won’t save the rulers.

Earlier, in a tweet sharing the picture of meeting between Nawaz Sharif and Afghan NSA, Maryam Nawaz had said that Pakistan’s peaceful existence with its neighbours is the very foundation of Nawaz Sharif’s ideology for which he has worked tirelessly.

“It is the very essence of diplomacy to talk to everyone, listen to their point of view and convey one’s own message across: something this government doesn’t comprehend and hence is a complete failure on the international front,” she tweeted.

 

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