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NATO official: Turkey faces ‘consequences’ if purchase of S-400 completed

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  1. Zarvan

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    Turkey announced its choice to buy the Russian S-400 in September, but is yet to sign final paperwork on the deal. (Paul Gypteau/AFP via Getty Images)

    WASHINGTON — A top NATO official has warned of “necessary consequences” for Turkey should the alliance member purchase a Russian air-defense system.

    Gen. Petr Pavel, chairman of NATO’s Military Committee, said Wednesday that while each nation is free to make its own defense decisions, Turkey’s planned buy of the S-400 system would preclude Anakara from being part of any integrated air-defense system with NATO allies, and may result in other technical restrictions.

    “The principal of sovereignty obviously exists in acquisition of defense equipment, but the same way that nations are sovereign in making their decision, they are also sovereign in facing the consequences of that decision,” Pavel told a group of reporters hosted by the Defense Writers Group.


    While Turkey announced its choice of the S-400 in September, Ankara has yet to sign final paperwork on the deal, and until they do, Pavel said it is “fair among allies to have that discussion, to raise all concerns and potential difficulties.”

    Other concerns raised by Pavel about the system were “most security” focused, noting that even if NATO missile defense systems are not integrated with the S-400, its mere presence “creates challenges for allied assets potentially deployed onto the territory of that country.”

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    Turkey’s state run news agency Anadolu on Wednesday published an infographic showcasing the capabilities of the country’s new Russian-acquired S-400 missile defense system — and its ability to shoot down U.S. aircraft.

    By: Shawn Snow
    Notably, Turkey is both a partner nation and a sustainment hub for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Program, which is central to the future air power of several NATO nations, including the U.S. and the U.K. Some experts have questioned if an S-400 system active in Turkey could gain information about the stealthy jet that could have operational impact down the line.

    Still, Pavel said Turkey remains a key part of NATO, even as outside groups have raised concerns that the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is sliding away from democracy.

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    “When it comes to democratic deficits, show me one single nation that is perfect. No one is perfect,” Pavel said. “No one challenges the role of Turkey as an important ally at the very difficult crossroads of challenges to the alliance.”

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/20...-consequences-if-purchase-of-s-400-completed/
     
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    Just kick Turkey out of NATO. It wants to chart its own course politically, diplomatically, militarily, and economically. Rest of NATO should oblige it.
     
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    That will be big loss for NATO.
     
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    Wait who orchestrated the failed coup de tat on erdogan?
     
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    Turkey will buckle and cancel the deal....
    ....It was only meant for bargaining ...
     
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    Lol at this lil'Turkey expert... It's already signed, long negotiations completed and Turkey's S-400s are on the delivery list. Moreover, co-production and developing a new system with Russia is on the table..


    P.S.: Fvck NATO
     
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    Don't worry. NATO will survive.

    Article says Turkey hasn't signed final paperwork.

    But if it does, the ball has started rolling for Turkey eventual exit from NATO. It won't happen tomorrow, but it will happen sooner rather than later.
     
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    sure but with very less teeth. Don't tell me that India will fill the gap ! ! :woot:
     
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    Can they afford?

    Turkey is milking both sides now after the failed coup attempt, and it should.
     
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    I do not understand this. Turkey shots down a Russian plane and killed the Pilot and then Russia and Turkey becomes best friends?
     
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    Turkeys membership in NATO is not in question and never has been questioned by NATO. It's only pretend experts on the internet or opportunistic politicians outside the loop, or the usual gang of turcophobes who go on about kicking Turkey out. Even the article acknowledges this;

    “When it comes to democratic deficits, show me one single nation that is perfect. No one is perfect,” Pavel said. “No one challenges the role of Turkey as an important ally at the very difficult crossroads of challenges to the alliance.”

    Turkey's contribution to NATO can not be replaced by any other country.

    Over 6 decades of experience, capabilities, sites and personnel and hardware that Turkey provides can't just be thrown out because somebody doesn't like Erdogan. Cry more.
    Not only would the losses which NATO will accrue over the coming years be irreplaceable, but faith in NATO itself will be undermined. It will become a precedent for other members to doubt NATO's commitment to their own countries security.
    Russia knows this which would explain why they are so eager to see a rift between Turkey and NATO.

    Nato still hasn't defined what it wants to be post cold war and a NATO without Turkey would be even less articulate as a collective security cooperation.
     
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    Turkey is a sovereign state and should act in its best interest and do not succumb to pressure by any useless bully.
     
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    Thats politics you indians lack on..
     
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    Now you will teach India, international politics ??? The same India who is expert dealing with both Russia and USA, Saudi Arabia and Iran etc.

    We have long mastered the art of taming and keeping both the wolf and sheep in same cage, yet reap benefit from both. :p:
     
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    OMG, I didn't know you wield so much power...we're lucky to have you on PDF..
     
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