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Is this right time to withdraw NATO forces from Afghanistan?


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HRK

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Guys, according to the news mention below, NATO will start withdraw of its forces from Afghanistan next year. This will have effect at the future of Afghanistan and Pakistan both. I would like to know the opinion of you people about this

Kindly keep these points in mind


1. What should be strategy of Pakistan for this Interim Period and after the withdrawal?
2. What would be the possible role of America (Geo political and Economic other then terrorism) after the withdrawal?
3. What strategy Iran could adopt?
4. Is this really possible for Afghan government to survive after 2014 (complete withdraw)?​




Updated at: 1903 PST, Saturday, November 20, 2010
LISBON: Western allied leaders agreed on Saturday to start pulling their forces off the Afghan battlefield next year but vowed not to leave the beleaguered Kabul regime prey to a still unbeaten Taliban.

The 48 countries that make up the NATO-led force in Afghanistan signed a deal with President Hamid Karzai to begin handing his government control of the war in early 2011 and cede command to it by the end of 2014.

At the same time, however, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the Western allies would stand by Kabul even after their combat mission ends.

"The aim is for Afghan forces to be in the lead countrywide by the end of 2014," Rasmussen said, as he and Karzai announced the deal after talks between coalition leaders at the NATO summit in Lisbon.

"We will stay after transition in a supporting role. President Karzai and I signed an agreement on a long term partnership between NATO and Afghanistan that will endure beyond our combat mission," he added.

US President Barack Obama and his allies in NATO's nine-year-old Afghan conflict met seeking an exit strategy for their 150,000-strong force.

Even as they met, four more Afghans were killed and 33 wounded when two suicide bombers struck in the east of the country, adding to a grim civilian toll in the bloodiest year yet for NATO soldiers and ordinary Afghans.

The summit was attended by leaders from the 28 NATO allies, the 20 other nations that fight alongside them in the ISAF military coalition, big cash donor Japan and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

A small group of anti-war protesters briefly chained themselves across a road a few hundred yards (metres) from the venue, but they were quickly removed by Portuguese police and there was no sign of large scale demonstrations.

NATO commanders want the allies to send enough funds and military trainers to allow them to boost the total size of Afghanistan's national security forces to 306,000 from 256,000 within the next 12 months.

Alliance officials insist the transition to Afghan control is not a rush to the exit, but the war is unpopular in Europe and cash-strapped governments are under pressure from voters to bring soldiers home.

Nevertheless, Obama hopes to convince his allies to send more troops to train Afghan security forces plagued by desertion and corruption. Summit host Portugal said it plans to send 40 more trainers.

Karzai surprised his allies this week by urging US forces to scale down military operations and halt unpopular night raids by special forces, but after the talks he suggested that the row had been smoothed over.

"I hope that as we move forward many of these difficulties will go away and that then our movement to the future will be one without the difficulties that we are encountering," he said, when asked about the raids.

The number of ordinary Afghans killed in the conflict rose by a third in the first six months of 2010 to 1,271, with most deaths caused by Taliban insurgent attacks, the United Nations reported in August.

The Alliance was to hold a separate meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev later Saturday to strike a new cooperation deal on Afghanistan and invite Moscow to take part in a new missile defence shield.

"A former military adversary is now clearly a partner," German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters at the summit. "It's a turning point in working together that we can clearly call historic."

Russia helps NATO on Afghanistan by allowing alliance supplies -- except weapons -- to transit through its territory and by providing counter-narcotics training to Afghan officials outside Moscow.

NATO, which faces rebel attacks on fuel trucks on Pakistani roads, wants Russia to expand the list of permitted goods to include armoured vehicles.NATO forces pull out to begin next year


link NATO forces pull out to begin next year - GEO.tv
 
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I still believe there is a lot of work to be done before the NATO leaves Afghanistan.

MYSTIC, I agree with you but to a certain extant, dear at this stage what do you think NATO is capable enough to carry out that “LOT OF WORK”?

MYSTIC, it is sensitive and vital important issue not just for the region but for the power centres of glob, believe me this time any earthquake in HINDU KUHS region will not only effect Tehran, Islamabad and Delhi but it will jolt half of the world.

I would appreciate if you or some other Indian members of the forum could come up with the detail Indian perspective (not the official one) prevailing in masses and in Political and Strategist circles.

As, I don’t want this thread to be a Pakistan vs. India therefore for Indian friends I am roiling 3 questions to them
1. What are the interests of India in Afghanistan?
2. What role India wants to have in Afghanistan?
3. What would be the challenges India has to face to fulfil her roll?
Kindly restrict your self to these 3 questions only.


For Pakistani friend questions remain the same as stated at the start of the thread.

• What should be strategy of Pakistan for this Interim Period
and after the withdrawal?
• What would be the possible role of America (Geo political and Economic other then terrorism) after the withdrawal?
• What strategy Iran could adopt?
• Is this really possible for Afghan government to survive after 2014 (complete withdraw)?
 

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Guys, according to the news mention below, NATO will start withdraw of its forces from Afghanistan next year. This will have effect at the future of Afghanistan and Pakistan both. I would like to know the opinion of you people about this

Kindly keep these points in mind


1. What should be strategy of Pakistan for this Interim Period and after the withdrawal?
2. What would be the possible role of America (Geo political and Economic other then terrorism) after the withdrawal?
3. What strategy Iran could adopt?
4. Is this really possible for Afghan government to survive after 2014 (complete withdraw)?​




Updated at: 1903 PST, Saturday, November 20, 2010
LISBON: Western allied leaders agreed on Saturday to start pulling their forces off the Afghan battlefield next year but vowed not to leave the beleaguered Kabul regime prey to a still unbeaten Taliban.

The 48 countries that make up the NATO-led force in Afghanistan signed a deal with President Hamid Karzai to begin handing his government control of the war in early 2011 and cede command to it by the end of 2014.

At the same time, however, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the Western allies would stand by Kabul even after their combat mission ends.

"The aim is for Afghan forces to be in the lead countrywide by the end of 2014," Rasmussen said, as he and Karzai announced the deal after talks between coalition leaders at the NATO summit in Lisbon.

"We will stay after transition in a supporting role. President Karzai and I signed an agreement on a long term partnership between NATO and Afghanistan that will endure beyond our combat mission," he added.

US President Barack Obama and his allies in NATO's nine-year-old Afghan conflict met seeking an exit strategy for their 150,000-strong force.

Even as they met, four more Afghans were killed and 33 wounded when two suicide bombers struck in the east of the country, adding to a grim civilian toll in the bloodiest year yet for NATO soldiers and ordinary Afghans.

The summit was attended by leaders from the 28 NATO allies, the 20 other nations that fight alongside them in the ISAF military coalition, big cash donor Japan and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

A small group of anti-war protesters briefly chained themselves across a road a few hundred yards (metres) from the venue, but they were quickly removed by Portuguese police and there was no sign of large scale demonstrations.

NATO commanders want the allies to send enough funds and military trainers to allow them to boost the total size of Afghanistan's national security forces to 306,000 from 256,000 within the next 12 months.

Alliance officials insist the transition to Afghan control is not a rush to the exit, but the war is unpopular in Europe and cash-strapped governments are under pressure from voters to bring soldiers home.

Nevertheless, Obama hopes to convince his allies to send more troops to train Afghan security forces plagued by desertion and corruption. Summit host Portugal said it plans to send 40 more trainers.

Karzai surprised his allies this week by urging US forces to scale down military operations and halt unpopular night raids by special forces, but after the talks he suggested that the row had been smoothed over.

"I hope that as we move forward many of these difficulties will go away and that then our movement to the future will be one without the difficulties that we are encountering," he said, when asked about the raids.

The number of ordinary Afghans killed in the conflict rose by a third in the first six months of 2010 to 1,271, with most deaths caused by Taliban insurgent attacks, the United Nations reported in August.

The Alliance was to hold a separate meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev later Saturday to strike a new cooperation deal on Afghanistan and invite Moscow to take part in a new missile defence shield.

"A former military adversary is now clearly a partner," German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters at the summit. "It's a turning point in working together that we can clearly call historic."

Russia helps NATO on Afghanistan by allowing alliance supplies -- except weapons -- to transit through its territory and by providing counter-narcotics training to Afghan officials outside Moscow.

NATO, which faces rebel attacks on fuel trucks on Pakistani roads, wants Russia to expand the list of permitted goods to include armoured vehicles.NATO forces pull out to begin next year


link NATO forces pull out to begin next year - GEO.tv
They are not going so simply, they will think something more to keep stay there.
 

ajtr

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I dont think tha any sort of withdrawal is gong to make any change.Coz usa is sitting right up there in pakistan and kabul and north afghanistan.Mostly usa gonna rely on drones for any escalation.
 

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In my humble opinion i don't think NATO can leave Afghanistan before 2020... Purely because Afghanistan needs a lot of help, they can't just abandon the government and the people.

But judging by the hasty way in which they are preparing and equipping the Afghan Military it would seem the case of "lets get the bloody hell out of here, and screw the natives".
 

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they won't go until Pakistan does not make them to go .......... anyways yesterday i was reading in a newspaper they are not leaving infact they are planning for big attack on the soil of pakistan in march or april ........ and for that they are prepared and they have taken important weapons and other things through air space and Pakistan does not know about it ....... it was an interview of ex-cia employee ........... although it was in a newspaper which shouldn't be taken as a serious but still that newspaper belongs to jung group ............... there were lots of things but i forgot many of those ............... and now i am waiting for march and april beside most of the spirtual leaders expecting and seeing it...............may ALLAH bless Pakistan
 

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