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Must Read: Crying wolf: The narrative of the ‘Delhi church attacks’ flies in the face of facts

Discussion in 'Central & South Asia' started by IndoCarib, Feb 17, 2015.

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    This is a urban myth.

    I am a Hindu nationalist. And I studied in a Jesuit school all my life.

    There is no better way to know the games people play than to grow up in their homes and see them playing them.

    There is no school or missionary more powerful than the family. The first chink in the armor is a crack at home. That is what they use and widen and then get in.

    So if you really want to stop people converting to Christianity, stop the flow of money from outside. See the Christian community in India, the native community. See them in your lives around you. And then ask yourselves, does this community have the pockets to buy the faith of Indians on their own? The answer is no. Yet thousands convert to Christiantiy. Why? Where are the goodies coming from?

    Hope you guys saw Arnab's debate No. 2 last night and saw the true face of the enemy.
     
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    I am NOT talking about conversion.

    I am talking about the SOFT POWER exerted by the CHRISTIANS. ............ and the HARD POWER exerted by the Christians.

    A Power they use AGAINST Hindutva and arguably against Hindus.


    Finally, I never watch Arnab debate.
     
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    The soft power that some anti-national Indian Christians can drum up against India is only as effective as how Christian nations want to engage with a Hindu India.

    Not one iota more from a nuisance value.
     
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    The lack of pseudo-seculars and Pakistanis is sorely being missed on this thread.

    Itni bhi kya nafrat :(
     
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    Its powerful enough to make the PM of India speak about protecting the religious rights of Indians in an function organised by the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church to celebrate the elevation to sainthood of Father Kuriakose Elias Chavara and Mother Euphrasia.


    If this was not enough, Major Archbishop of Syro-Malabar Church Cardinal George Alencherry said Christians were peace-loving people, but “this should not, however, be used to trample us.” The Cardinal appealed to the Prime Minister to look into the issue of Dalit Christian rights. :cheesy:

    Cardinal George Alencherry, Major Archbishop of Syro-Malabar Church, said: “The government’s alleged plans to bring in new laws [regarding conversion] will create animosity and destroy peace and harmony in the country.8-)


    In other words, its a THREAT. Unless they are allowed Conversion by THEIR RULES, expect ALL sort of Problems. :coffee: ....... Obama included.


    If you want to fight something, recognize its power. Don't be blind, just because what you see is ugly.
     
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    I have a different view on this.

    If you follw my recent aside with @SarthakGanguly you would get what it is.
     
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    There will be no more partitions. One will live. The other will perish.
     
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    Do post the link for that debate

    Christianity was supposed to help us solve this caste problem,WTF is Dalit Christians
     
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    Children of a lesser god :P
     
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    Christian leaders in India must address these problems
     
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    They are, by asking Modi to provide Reservation :coffee: ............. that is what this means "The Cardinal appealed to the Prime Minister to look into the issue of Dalit Christian rights."
     
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    it will be a slow & painful death , it has already begun
     
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    @Echo_419

    Dalit Christians are dalits who have converted to christianity...

    And yes christianity also has it's caste problems.
    You Have reddy Christians & Kamma Christians(found in AP & karnataka), Brahmin Christians,Vokkaligga Christians[All are UCCs] then OBC/BC Christians & then SC Christians.

    In some churches the front benches are reserved for the UCCs & OBCCs while the SCCs are supposed to sit at the last few rows which are uncomfortable compared to the first. In some places they aren't allowed to sit down anywhere & are told to stand during the entire ceremony. The UCCs & OBCCs & SCCs all have their different doorways to enter the chuch, in some places SCCs have their own church & aren't allowed to enter the churches of the UCCs or the OBCCs

    I even heard that in TN, Nadar Christians & Vanniyar Christians(BCCs) have their own graveyards while Dalit Christians have their own graveyards.
    In many places, people who are descendants of converts or are converts themselves follow the caste system.

    SOURCE:- News papers+ Magazines+one youtube video on caste in india[/QUOTE]
     
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    The whole point of converting to Christianity neutralizes right there
     
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    Its the new "secular" battle ........... first reservation to muslims and then reservations to christians. Hindus must be punished for being Hindus.

    This of course is different from the Reservation they already enjoy for "Minority" educational institutions :enjoy:

    The less said about "rights" the better.