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After living in a one-room apartment with 3 cats and visiting family members for six years, I felt it was time for me to move to a bigger house. This was the second time in my 13-year stay in Mumbai that I had to hunt for a house.

The first exercise six years ago was pretty smooth. My first house is located in the Lower Parel area, and I love the address given its proximity to my office, shopping malls, grocery markets, to name a few.

Sure, there are some drawbacks as well. It’s a commercial hub and constantly busy with construction activity and vehicular traffic, the main sources of air and noise pollution.

So for my next house, I started looking at the suburbs of Bandra, Khar, Santacruz, which are mostly residential areas with wide roads and a lot of greenery. I began contacting brokers with my requirement and budget. Many of them posted the houses available for lease on various Facebook groups.

This is very helpful as you get a brief idea about the house without actually visiting it. The brokers generally write details about the house layout, size, number of rooms, available amenities, and the asking rent in the Facebook posts. But they hide the most crucial information and that is the owners’ preferences for a tenant.

"Bachelors ko nahi denge, girls ko nahi denge, family ko nahin denge" are some of the known reservations of many house owners.

My first call to a broker was no less than a telephonic interview for a matrimonial. I liked the house he had posted on Facebook and wanted to check if I could come for a visit. So he asked me a few questions about my profession, my budget, requirement and how long I would want the house for. But for me, the most humiliating was, "Oh aap Muslim ho? Sorry, Muslims ko nahin denge”. This was the first time someone had rejected me for my religion. And these are the upmarket areas of the city.

I am a native of Ratnagiri, a district in Maharashtra renowned for alphonso mangoes, and which has a sizeable population of both Hindus and Muslims. We grew up celebrating all festivals together with equal fervour. I would go for Ganesh pooja at my friend’s place and wait for the modak. They would come to my house on Eid to eat sheerkurma and biryani. Religion never separated us from playing hide & seek in a temple or bunking college classes together.

So I was shocked to hear the broker’s blatant comment but had no choice than disconnect the call. I had heard many instances of such religious bias in Mumbai’s rental property market, but I was certain that a few cases would have been blown out of proportion. Despite the nasty experience with the broker, I still felt it could be a one-off incident and decided to try my luck elsewhere.

The next day I get a call from another broker who had a nice 2BHK available in my budget. Surprisingly, he didn’t ask me many questions and directly invited me for a visit. I was excited that my house hunt was coming to an end soon. The house had good vibes, it was furnished and was close to the railway station, something office-goers always look for. So we started talking about rent and how long would the lease be.

During the conversation, I got a call from my father and I greeted him with a traditional Salaam. I told my father I would call him in some time as I was finalising the house. After I hung up the call, the broker asked me, “Madam aap Muslim ho kya?” With a lot of hesitation I said

“Yes, kyu? kuch problem hai?”

The broker himself was a Muslim, and embarrassedly he said, “Ma’am owner Muslim ko nahin dena chahte.”

I quietly stepped out of the house while the broker kept apologising for not letting me know about the owner’s preference earlier. I was hurt and angry by those words. I wanted to call the owner and ask how did he imagine that I was going to harm him.

But then, I felt it was up to the owner to decide whom he wanted as a tenant. I still did not lose hope, and continued with the quest for a roof.

After the COVID-19 lockdown, rentals came down crashing as many tenants started vacating houses. Some lost their job, some were told to work from home so they temporarily shifted back to their native places leading to several vacant houses. I was still looking for houses and saw this as a good opportunity. But this time I started telling the brokers beforehand about my religion so that they show me only those houses where "Muslims are allowed" and I don’t face any more humiliation. But then, they started taking me to Muslim dominated localities and showed me houses that weren’t appealing at all.

"Aapke budget mein yehi ghar milega” is what one broker told me.

I gradually got used to getting turned down for extremely good houses just because of my religion. I was so frustrated that I started asking brokers “Kya problem hai Muslim hone se?”

"Unko pure vegetarian chahiye,” one broker said.

"Kitne log pure veg milenge Mumbai mein?” I questioned.

"Unko (owner) usse fark nahi padta…wo vacant rakhenge par Muslim ko nahin denge,” he said.

I started wondering if it’s only Muslims who eat non-veg in this country?
A popular broker from Bandra told me that of all the rental houses he is handling in the suburbs, about 60 percent are strictly not available for Muslims.

“Why don’t’ you specify this in your Facebook posts?” I asked him.

“I can’t write this directly. I will lose Muslim clients”, he replied.

One broker took me to a high rise, with huge balconies and a beautiful view. He probably forgot to ask me about my religion or he may have assumed I am not a Muslim. People say I look like a Gujarati, some say Punjabi and some say Pahadi. After seeing the house, I asked him upfront,

"Owner ko Muslim se koi problem nahi hai na?” Upon hearing that, his expressions underwent a sudden change.

“Aap Muslim ho?” he asked and then the rest is for you to guess.

One broker told me that some owners have had bad experiences with Muslims and hence the resistance. That may well be the case, but then, there are bad apples in all communities. Has every Muslim in Mumbai become bad and undeserving to be taken on as a tenant? Is it fair to hate the entire community for the misdeeds, if at all, of the few?

But I have not lost hope yet. This is not called a city of dreams for nothing. I am hopeful that I will soon cross paths with a fair-minded landlord.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/views/muslims-not-allowed
 

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After living in a one-room apartment with 3 cats and visiting family members for six years, I felt it was time for me to move to a bigger house. This was the second time in my 13-year stay in Mumbai that I had to hunt for a house.

The first exercise six years ago was pretty smooth. My first house is located in the Lower Parel area, and I love the address given its proximity to my office, shopping malls, grocery markets, to name a few.

Sure, there are some drawbacks as well. It’s a commercial hub and constantly busy with construction activity and vehicular traffic, the main sources of air and noise pollution.

So for my next house, I started looking at the suburbs of Bandra, Khar, Santacruz, which are mostly residential areas with wide roads and a lot of greenery. I began contacting brokers with my requirement and budget. Many of them posted the houses available for lease on various Facebook groups.

This is very helpful as you get a brief idea about the house without actually visiting it. The brokers generally write details about the house layout, size, number of rooms, available amenities, and the asking rent in the Facebook posts. But they hide the most crucial information and that is the owners’ preferences for a tenant.

"Bachelors ko nahi denge, girls ko nahi denge, family ko nahin denge" are some of the known reservations of many house owners.

My first call to a broker was no less than a telephonic interview for a matrimonial. I liked the house he had posted on Facebook and wanted to check if I could come for a visit. So he asked me a few questions about my profession, my budget, requirement and how long I would want the house for. But for me, the most humiliating was, "Oh aap Muslim ho? Sorry, Muslims ko nahin denge”. This was the first time someone had rejected me for my religion. And these are the upmarket areas of the city.

I am a native of Ratnagiri, a district in Maharashtra renowned for alphonso mangoes, and which has a sizeable population of both Hindus and Muslims. We grew up celebrating all festivals together with equal fervour. I would go for Ganesh pooja at my friend’s place and wait for the modak. They would come to my house on Eid to eat sheerkurma and biryani. Religion never separated us from playing hide & seek in a temple or bunking college classes together.

So I was shocked to hear the broker’s blatant comment but had no choice than disconnect the call. I had heard many instances of such religious bias in Mumbai’s rental property market, but I was certain that a few cases would have been blown out of proportion. Despite the nasty experience with the broker, I still felt it could be a one-off incident and decided to try my luck elsewhere.

The next day I get a call from another broker who had a nice 2BHK available in my budget. Surprisingly, he didn’t ask me many questions and directly invited me for a visit. I was excited that my house hunt was coming to an end soon. The house had good vibes, it was furnished and was close to the railway station, something office-goers always look for. So we started talking about rent and how long would the lease be.

During the conversation, I got a call from my father and I greeted him with a traditional Salaam. I told my father I would call him in some time as I was finalising the house. After I hung up the call, the broker asked me, “Madam aap Muslim ho kya?” With a lot of hesitation I said

“Yes, kyu? kuch problem hai?”

The broker himself was a Muslim, and embarrassedly he said, “Ma’am owner Muslim ko nahin dena chahte.”

I quietly stepped out of the house while the broker kept apologising for not letting me know about the owner’s preference earlier. I was hurt and angry by those words. I wanted to call the owner and ask how did he imagine that I was going to harm him.

But then, I felt it was up to the owner to decide whom he wanted as a tenant. I still did not lose hope, and continued with the quest for a roof.

After the COVID-19 lockdown, rentals came down crashing as many tenants started vacating houses. Some lost their job, some were told to work from home so they temporarily shifted back to their native places leading to several vacant houses. I was still looking for houses and saw this as a good opportunity. But this time I started telling the brokers beforehand about my religion so that they show me only those houses where "Muslims are allowed" and I don’t face any more humiliation. But then, they started taking me to Muslim dominated localities and showed me houses that weren’t appealing at all.

"Aapke budget mein yehi ghar milega” is what one broker told me.

I gradually got used to getting turned down for extremely good houses just because of my religion. I was so frustrated that I started asking brokers “Kya problem hai Muslim hone se?”

"Unko pure vegetarian chahiye,” one broker said.

"Kitne log pure veg milenge Mumbai mein?” I questioned.

"Unko (owner) usse fark nahi padta…wo vacant rakhenge par Muslim ko nahin denge,” he said.

I started wondering if it’s only Muslims who eat non-veg in this country?
A popular broker from Bandra told me that of all the rental houses he is handling in the suburbs, about 60 percent are strictly not available for Muslims.

“Why don’t’ you specify this in your Facebook posts?” I asked him.

“I can’t write this directly. I will lose Muslim clients”, he replied.

One broker took me to a high rise, with huge balconies and a beautiful view. He probably forgot to ask me about my religion or he may have assumed I am not a Muslim. People say I look like a Gujarati, some say Punjabi and some say Pahadi. After seeing the house, I asked him upfront,

"Owner ko Muslim se koi problem nahi hai na?” Upon hearing that, his expressions underwent a sudden change.

“Aap Muslim ho?” he asked and then the rest is for you to guess.

One broker told me that some owners have had bad experiences with Muslims and hence the resistance. That may well be the case, but then, there are bad apples in all communities. Has every Muslim in Mumbai become bad and undeserving to be taken on as a tenant? Is it fair to hate the entire community for the misdeeds, if at all, of the few?

But I have not lost hope yet. This is not called a city of dreams for nothing. I am hopeful that I will soon cross paths with a fair-minded landlord.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/views/muslims-not-allowed
India is a nation built on hate,
I am extremely thankful to Modi, BJP and RSS for showing the world the true face of India.

If it wasn't for the innocent people like her, I would wish, I would give donations, so they could rule for a few more decades, I swear to God I would.
But, I do not want people like her to suffer any more.
 

Waqas

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India is a nation built on hate,
I am extremely thankful to Modi, BJP and RSS for showing the world the true face of India.

If it wasn't for the innocent people like her, I would wish, I would give donations, so they could rule for a few more decades, I swear to God I would.
But, I do not want people like her to suffer any more.
Check her LinkedIn profile, she is wearing ketchup on her forehead 😂😂

 

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Well, well, well....

What were the Muslims thinking???

Jinnah made his fortune in Bombay, established his name and fame there, built his house in the Malabar Hills and had his entire family there including his only daughter. Yet, he left all these without the blink of an eye for the sake of Pak - built on the basis of the Two Nation Theory - for a "Divine Inspired" reason....
 

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After living in a one-room apartment with 3 cats and visiting family members for six years, I felt it was time for me to move to a bigger house. This was the second time in my 13-year stay in Mumbai that I had to hunt for a house.

The first exercise six years ago was pretty smooth. My first house is located in the Lower Parel area, and I love the address given its proximity to my office, shopping malls, grocery markets, to name a few.

Sure, there are some drawbacks as well. It’s a commercial hub and constantly busy with construction activity and vehicular traffic, the main sources of air and noise pollution.

So for my next house, I started looking at the suburbs of Bandra, Khar, Santacruz, which are mostly residential areas with wide roads and a lot of greenery. I began contacting brokers with my requirement and budget. Many of them posted the houses available for lease on various Facebook groups.

This is very helpful as you get a brief idea about the house without actually visiting it. The brokers generally write details about the house layout, size, number of rooms, available amenities, and the asking rent in the Facebook posts. But they hide the most crucial information and that is the owners’ preferences for a tenant.

"Bachelors ko nahi denge, girls ko nahi denge, family ko nahin denge" are some of the known reservations of many house owners.

My first call to a broker was no less than a telephonic interview for a matrimonial. I liked the house he had posted on Facebook and wanted to check if I could come for a visit. So he asked me a few questions about my profession, my budget, requirement and how long I would want the house for. But for me, the most humiliating was, "Oh aap Muslim ho? Sorry, Muslims ko nahin denge”. This was the first time someone had rejected me for my religion. And these are the upmarket areas of the city.

I am a native of Ratnagiri, a district in Maharashtra renowned for alphonso mangoes, and which has a sizeable population of both Hindus and Muslims. We grew up celebrating all festivals together with equal fervour. I would go for Ganesh pooja at my friend’s place and wait for the modak. They would come to my house on Eid to eat sheerkurma and biryani. Religion never separated us from playing hide & seek in a temple or bunking college classes together.

So I was shocked to hear the broker’s blatant comment but had no choice than disconnect the call. I had heard many instances of such religious bias in Mumbai’s rental property market, but I was certain that a few cases would have been blown out of proportion. Despite the nasty experience with the broker, I still felt it could be a one-off incident and decided to try my luck elsewhere.

The next day I get a call from another broker who had a nice 2BHK available in my budget. Surprisingly, he didn’t ask me many questions and directly invited me for a visit. I was excited that my house hunt was coming to an end soon. The house had good vibes, it was furnished and was close to the railway station, something office-goers always look for. So we started talking about rent and how long would the lease be.

During the conversation, I got a call from my father and I greeted him with a traditional Salaam. I told my father I would call him in some time as I was finalising the house. After I hung up the call, the broker asked me, “Madam aap Muslim ho kya?” With a lot of hesitation I said

“Yes, kyu? kuch problem hai?”

The broker himself was a Muslim, and embarrassedly he said, “Ma’am owner Muslim ko nahin dena chahte.”

I quietly stepped out of the house while the broker kept apologising for not letting me know about the owner’s preference earlier. I was hurt and angry by those words. I wanted to call the owner and ask how did he imagine that I was going to harm him.

But then, I felt it was up to the owner to decide whom he wanted as a tenant. I still did not lose hope, and continued with the quest for a roof.

After the COVID-19 lockdown, rentals came down crashing as many tenants started vacating houses. Some lost their job, some were told to work from home so they temporarily shifted back to their native places leading to several vacant houses. I was still looking for houses and saw this as a good opportunity. But this time I started telling the brokers beforehand about my religion so that they show me only those houses where "Muslims are allowed" and I don’t face any more humiliation. But then, they started taking me to Muslim dominated localities and showed me houses that weren’t appealing at all.

"Aapke budget mein yehi ghar milega” is what one broker told me.

I gradually got used to getting turned down for extremely good houses just because of my religion. I was so frustrated that I started asking brokers “Kya problem hai Muslim hone se?”

"Unko pure vegetarian chahiye,” one broker said.

"Kitne log pure veg milenge Mumbai mein?” I questioned.

"Unko (owner) usse fark nahi padta…wo vacant rakhenge par Muslim ko nahin denge,” he said.

I started wondering if it’s only Muslims who eat non-veg in this country?
A popular broker from Bandra told me that of all the rental houses he is handling in the suburbs, about 60 percent are strictly not available for Muslims.

“Why don’t’ you specify this in your Facebook posts?” I asked him.

“I can’t write this directly. I will lose Muslim clients”, he replied.

One broker took me to a high rise, with huge balconies and a beautiful view. He probably forgot to ask me about my religion or he may have assumed I am not a Muslim. People say I look like a Gujarati, some say Punjabi and some say Pahadi. After seeing the house, I asked him upfront,

"Owner ko Muslim se koi problem nahi hai na?” Upon hearing that, his expressions underwent a sudden change.

“Aap Muslim ho?” he asked and then the rest is for you to guess.

One broker told me that some owners have had bad experiences with Muslims and hence the resistance. That may well be the case, but then, there are bad apples in all communities. Has every Muslim in Mumbai become bad and undeserving to be taken on as a tenant? Is it fair to hate the entire community for the misdeeds, if at all, of the few?

But I have not lost hope yet. This is not called a city of dreams for nothing. I am hopeful that I will soon cross paths with a fair-minded landlord.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/views/muslims-not-allowed

Stop crying... Make another "Pakistan"...
 

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Well, well, well....

What were the Muslims thinking???

Jinnah made his fortune in Bombay, established his name and fame there, built his house in the Malabar Hills and had his entire family there including his only daughter. Yet, he left all these without the blink of an eye for the sake of Pak - built on the basis of the Two Nation Theory - for a "Divine Inspired" reason....
Even Dawood Ibrahim was born and built his underworld empire in Mumbai but he left all that behind and settled in Karachi.
 

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Muslims should start making nice buildings for themselves. Not waste their time with Hindus.

Hindus for most part are vegetarian. I know I'll get a lot of hate for saying this, but most muslim households have typical non vegetarian smell to them. I used to live in Muslim locality growing up, I have had few muslim friends too. I used to go to their houses on occasions. Most of the time they would be drying up some meat for future use. That gives a very unpleasant smell through out the house. My muslim friends wouldn't understand it when I say it to them rather innocently (being a kid). They are so used to it that they can't see how it is different. But It would be hard for Hindu to tolerate it. Other thing is in general Muslims have rather large family than a Hindu family.

But Hindus are so also stupid to generalise it to all Muslims. At this point, they all want to play safe than take a risk.

Muslims should immediately boycott Hindu landlords and start humiliating Hindus in reverse by not renting Hindu houses. That'll teach them.
 

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That is typical Rana Ayub. She makes up stories, Concoct stories. She hates Modi to core and in the process ends up hating Hindus. No big deal. And other left leaning journalists also don't give her a damn and knows her tantrums. They don't like her either.

Apart from that Many Hindus don't like renting out to Muslims and vice versa in their own exclusive area. Apart from vegetarian or non vegetarian is not the main reason. Reason may be neighbours will not like it, plus if some arguments break out and it takes unpleasant turn, why get embroiled yourself with the society of the Apartment or with your neighbour?
 

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Hindus in Bangladesh living king life where 90 percent population are muslim , and on the other side of the boundary muslims are being discriminated just bcz of their faith this is unacceptable , Bangladesh Pakistan and indian muslim must unite against this hate trio BJP establishment
 

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India is a nation built on hate,
I am extremely thankful to Modi, BJP and RSS for showing the world the true face of India.

If it wasn't for the innocent people like her, I would wish, I would give donations, so they could rule for a few more decades, I swear to God I would.
But, I do not want people like her to suffer any more.
This is a bit exaggerating.
I am living in Mumbai for 17 years and I know the truth very well.
I accept there are some societies where only one particular community people resides, they don't allow other community people to buy a flat in their society. But this is not because of like they hate other communities but they just want to live within their own like people.
For example, there is an area called New Nagar (mira road) in Mumbai, it just 200 meters far where I live. Only Muslims people reside in this area, no non muslims people can buy flat in most of the part on this area. But no Hindu complaint about it ever. Bcz they understand their sentiments. Even once I tried to rent a house in this area but the agent told me that non Muslims can't rent out it here bcz the whole society is muslims. But I never complaint about it or wrote articles on it.
And there are many jains and Buddhists societies too where only particular community people can buy a flat. But this is just in 0.00000001‰ of the part of Mumbai. Rest Mumbai is very fine with each other.
Its all about sentiments and living with their own people alike, not about hate.
 

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good job india i love it :yahoo:

Yes it gives more weight to the two nation theory. Jinnah foresightedness was something special...


How can rest of the Muslims in India cannot see it and understand Hindu psyche, living with them for hundred of years, as Jinnah has said they are incorrigible.
 

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Muslims should start making nice buildings for themselves. Not waste their time with Hindus.

Hindus for most part are vegetarian. I know I'll get a lot of hate for saying this, but most muslim households have typical non vegetarian smell to them. I used to live in Muslim locality growing up, I have had few muslim friends too. I used to go to their houses on occasions. Most of the time they would be drying up some meat for future use. That gives a very unpleasant smell through out the house. My muslim friends wouldn't understand it when I say it to them rather innocently (being a kid). They are so used to it that they can't see how it is different. But It would be hard for Hindu to tolerate it. Other thing is in general Muslims have rather large family than a Hindu family.

But Hindus are so also stupid to generalise it to all Muslims. At this point, they all want to play safe than take a risk.

Muslims should immediately boycott Hindu landlords and start humiliating Hindus in reverse by not renting Hindu houses. That'll teach them.
Ya..you are right...they dry those beef kebabs which is disgusting...always cook beef...most of the people bathe only on fridays...large families...keep their house dirty....won't wake up until 11o'clock on holidays .
Their lifestyle is entirely different from Hindus..Kerala and tamil nadu muslims are somewhat neat but they also eat beef a lot....
 

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