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Most of Pakistan isn't a part of the Indian sub-continent

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  1. Imad.Khan

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    Can you highlight which point is baseless and also what does Middle-eastern civilization have anything to do with what i wrote. Also your knowledge about nomads of Central Asia and Arabia is lacking.
     
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    Nomad life is inferior primitive life like that of animals, there is nothing to be proud of being nomadic, would you like to become nomadic with some kind of "jhugi" from place to place instead of living comfortable life in your settled apartment/house where you most probably have lived your whole life. I know some people are inspired of that Anglo-American supremacist BS of indo-european "nomadic aryans" of central asia being related to the "white" people of north east europe and hence should be "worshiped" by everyone as a symbol of white race.
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ans-after-ny-bomb-scare-idUSTRE64655Y20100507

    Pakistanis pose as Indians after NY bomb scare

    Walden Siew
    4 MIN READ


    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Pakistani merchants and job seekers in the United States, still reeling from economic hardship since the September 11 attacks of 2001, are posing as Indians to avoid discrimination in the wake of the Times Square bomb attempt.


    A police car is seen in Times Square, New York May 3, 2010. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton

    Once again, a man of Pakistani descent is at the center of a security story, leading to backlash against the Pakistani-American community.

    Faisal Shahzad, 30, a naturalized American born in Pakistan, was arrested on Monday, two days after authorities say he parked a crude car bomb in New York’s busy Times Square.

    Suspected September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and convicted 1993 World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef are also of Pakistani decent, and anti-American militants fighting U.S. forces in Afghanistan take refuge in Pakistan.

    In Brooklyn, home to one of the largest Pakistani populations in the United States, business is scant at the various grocery, halal meat and sweet cake shops since a Pakistani-American was suspected in the Times Square plot. More than 100 businesses along Coney Island Avenue have closed due to a 30 percent drop in business since 2001, a merchants’ association said.

    In Washington, an American man of Pakistani descent told of coming under suspicion this week when he tried to buy garden fertilizer. The Times Square car bomb contained a non-explosive type of fertilizer.

    While there have been no reported incidents since the failed car bomb attack last Saturday, some Pakistanis are bracing for reprisals. Police have increased foot patrols.

    “A lot of Pakistanis can’t get jobs after 9/11 and now it’s even worse,” said Asghar Choudhri, an accountant and chairman of Brooklyn’s Pakistani American Merchant Association. “They are now pretending they are Indian so they can get a job.”

    India and Pakistan have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, creating hostilities that ordinarily would lead a Pakistani to resent being mistaken for an Indian.


    According to the latest U.S. census data, some 210,410 people of Pakistani origin reside in the United States. Nearly 15,000 Pakistanis received U.S. immigrant visas last year.

    “I want to make clear that we will not tolerate any bias or backlash against Pakistani or Muslim New Yorkers,” Mayor Michael Bloomberg said this week, noting there are always “a few bad apples.”

    New York is “the city where you can practice your religion and say what you want to say and be in charge of your own destiny and we’re going to keep it that way,” Bloomberg said.

    SUSPICION OF GARDENING
    In Washington, an American of Pakistani heritage who would only be identified as Farhan, said a manager of a suburban home-improvement store prevented him from buying two bags of fertilizer for his family’s lawn on Tuesday.

    Farhan, who was born in northern Virginia, said police arrived soon after, investigated and allowed him to buy the fertilizer.

    “What kind of a country are we living in when a 22-year-old male can’t buy fertilizer?” Farhan asked. “I’m American. I’m not Pakistani.”

    Farhan said the store had subsequently apologized and the case appeared to be one of an overzealous manager rather than store policy.

    Merchants in New York, many of whom declined to be named, still remember reprisals after September 11. Soon after the attacks, there was a drive-by shooting in Brooklyn at a Pakistani restaurant, which is now closed.

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    The local merchants association has shrunk to 150 members, from about 250 merchants almost a decade ago.

    The FBI also arrested many undocumented workers in the neighborhood, leading to a wave of deportations, and residents would call law enforcement to make claims against their neighbors, including many false claims, Choudhri said.

    “After 9/11, we took much pain,” he said. “After that, a small beating is nothing. Now the Pakistanis are not so much scared but we are ashamed. We are embarrassed that the name of Pakistan came up.”

    Additional reporting by William Maclean in London and Frances Kerry in Washington; Editing by Daniel Trotta and Bill Trott
     
  4. Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

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    Indians are more likely the victims of hate crimes, as they look more foreign due to dark complexion and thick accent.

    Many Pakistanis can pass as others, including Hispanic, European, and White.
     
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    OP is mostly correct
     
  6. Imad.Khan

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    What has nomadic life got to do with anything i said? Did you even read my post? first you stated my post is baseless and started talking about middle-eastern civilization which was also unrelated to what i said and now this post about nomadic life.
     
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    Bullshit article! The name asghar chowdhry is even spelled wrong. I lived in new york city for most of my life and it's indians who were more victims of hate crimes compared to others "who fought back".
    If insecure or self hating Pakistanis would want to pose as someone else they wouldn't pose as indians for sure because they get picked on the most. Stop bullshitting and pretending to be invincible while all your insecurities and frustrations can be seen online. :lol:

    NO! It's because they are fragile and weak plus sadists and racists find them as a easy target.
    The funniest thing is after indians get their a** kicked by them instead of fighting back they blame muslims for everything. :lol: Darpoke slave mentality. British nay rakh kay 2e mari hai ainki.:rofl:
     
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    It's so funny for Kashmiri Brahmin like me when Desi Punjabis and even worse Sindhis(literally discount Rajasthanis) larp as non Desi due to Inferiority complex lol.

    Simply hilarious :lol:
     
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    The Indo-European people are just as old as the Semitic people. The Indo-European people are descendants of Yapheth, a son of Nuh Alayhi Salaam. The Semitic people are descendants of Saam who was also a son of Nuh Alayhi Salaam.
     
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    Yes brother, Afghanistan and Pakistan share the same nomadic Irani/Hun origin (Hephthalites, Scythian, Parthians, etc.) which makes us related to other Iranic groups like those who later became Iranians and Kurds.
     
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    All languages are related. We are all descendants of Adam Alayhi Salam. I will share some of my work. Alhamdulillah.

    Example:
    Arabic: "Manasik" of Hajj meaning "the rites, rituals ceremonies". "Mansak" is singular.

    (Man)sak = sacred= sak- Indo-European root.
    "Sacred" in the sense: "of or relating to religious rites or practices."
    "Sacred" also has a meaning of "dedicated to or set apart for the worship of a deity."

    (Man)sak, sacred, sak-.

    Alhamdulillah.

    Correction

    Manasik in Arabic means," rites, rituals, ceremonies."
    I missed a comma.

     
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    They are pretending to be Indian to get a job ? Indian must be very special people LOL Employers in westen countries do see your passport and visa when you apply for any jobs so how could someone pretend to be Indian when having Pakistani passports ?