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Most of Pakistan isn't a part of the Indian sub-continent

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  1. PakSarzameen5823

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    This is a curious little fact I managed to stumble across. It turns out that geographically, most of Pakistan isn't a part of the Indian sub-continent. How? Let me explain:

    Most of us know that the Indus river has been the traditional western boundary of the Indian sub-continent, and that this therefore means KPK, Balochistan and Gilgit Baltistan are not a part of the Indian sub-continent. However, what a lot of people don't actually know is that the total area of all these provinces is larger than the total area of all of Pakistan's provinces that are a part of the Indian sub-continent (Punjab+Sindh+AK+Islamabad capital territory).

    Total area of Pakistan: 796096 square km

    Area of Balochistan: 347190 square km

    Area of KPK: 74521 square km

    Area of FATA (now a part of KPK): 27220 square km


    Area of GB: 72971 square km

    Total area of above provinces: 521902 square km

    Sources:

    https://web.archive.org/web/2010122...k/depts/pco/statistics/area_pop/area_pop.html

    https://unpo.org/article/15483?id=15483

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    Nice information!
     
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    Bhartis and even some Pakistanis believe that Indian Subcontinent means land area from Afghanistan to Myanmar.:tdown:
     
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    No matter what majority of Pakistanis have Indian ancestry, so learn to live with it.
     
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    To begin with Indian sub-continent should not be used. I have worn myself out here trying to explain to Paks not to fcukin use terms like India sub-continent, desi, Asian, Muslim and the other synonyms I hear. If we don't own the name 'Pakistan' nobody else will. Specifically with referance to Indian Sub-continent post 1947 that term should have been dropped. These are geographic descriptors and a more neutral term like South Asia should be used. Simply because the term 'India' was branded in 1947 by a nation state called Bharat. Thus to prevent any ambiquity and to be neutral all the states that occupy trhe region South Asia should be used.

    With referance to what you say it's not entirely this simple. From tectonic point of view what you said true. But in human geography and even physical geography rivers tend to bind and not separate. Consider Ganga. You can' divide northern plains of Ganga from the souther plains. Similiarly Indus is one physical water system that includes good chunk of Afghanistan. Kabul River is a tributary of Indus as much as Jhelum is.

    Where Pakistan should focus on is Indus River simply because one can see Pakistan is underpinned by it. Pakistan occupies most of the Indus Basin. Pakistan can be used as a synomym for Indus Basin. That is why I use that handle. Some of the Indus Basin does extend into Afghanistan, China and India but as the map below shows Pakistan is central to the Indus Basin. In fact in Pakistan you can't really escape from the Indus Basin.

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    The problem with that is South Asia also includes Afghanistan and western Pakistan. A better neutral term would be Aryanistan, which could refer to all Indic populated areas, and Dravidian populated areas can get their own name.

    That is true, it does a little murky, but I'm going by traditional boundaries.

    :tup:

    Muhajirs hardly constitute the majority. And if you're referring to Indics, most Indic Pakistanis come from tribes that merely assimilated into the Indic fold.
     
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    As much as I have seen here in Canada, Pakistani only call themselves Pakistani in private conversation among themselves. Officially they call themselves "Punjabi", "Indian", "Desi" etc.
     
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    It's funny how only the Indians seem to see this. Must be another case of you guys stroking your ego to cope with Muslims permanently shattering your Akhand Bharat.
     
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    Any evidence or proof of your claims? If so please post the link here.
     
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    Absolutely true. On PDF they might claim differant but rarely will you get them calling themselves 'Pakistani'. So form of alternative will be used. This is to do with the abject failure in the state failing to form a identity and consolidated brand.

    Except for the Mohajirs rest [94%] don't. And I assume you are a Mohajir who feels the need to foist that descriptor on rest of us. Now if you said most Pakistan's have South Asian heritage - yes I would agree with you.
     
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    Never heard of that before.
     
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    Mohajirs???
    We punjabis are Indian ancestry, Bajwa chattha jatt etc etc. So are the Sindhi. Only pushton and Baluch are Iranic.
     
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    Sorry, I am not able to parse your sentence. Can you translate it into English, please?

    There are two ways to handle this situation. Either simply give a damn about identity and build yourself on simply policies. Thats what Canada did. We don't give a damn if we come out as 'Americans', our policies set us way different --not necessarily better-- than Americans.

    Other is indoctrinate common identity among people and 'Otherize' other. It's time-consuming and impractical for a large population. United States has been hell-bent on this. They have achieved some success on this as well. The global melting pot where everyone is melted into American identity. That said, when they solidify again, the cracks are often visible.
     
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    Are you drunk?
     
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    Lol
     
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