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  1. Doritos11

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    The Chief of the Office of Security Cooperation between the US and Iraq has mentioned a possible deal between Iraq and Russia for MIG 35 fighters. Currently the Iraqi defence ministry is not confirming the details of the Russian deals, only giving hints.

    What do you think about this aircrafts capabilities ?
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    The aircraft is basically and upgrade of the Mig-29M2, the Russian Air Force hasn't ordered any because the Su-35 can perform all the same tasks. But what does Iraq look at it for? As an alternative to F-16? Are they getting any F-16?
     
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    Wiki says Russia ordered around 30.
    Alternative + they do not put restrictions on weapons like the US, f16 comes next year.
     
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    I think that what would be a good decision, the maneuverability of the aircraft is better than the alternatives and it carries longer range missiles, more powerful radar, and a complete avionics suite. Not all things compare but it still would be a decent choice also depending if export or domestic version.

    Do you know how much they plan to order? What do you say? For it or against it?
     
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    Its better then the F16 block 52 which Iraq is receiving, also they will supply BVR missiles and not restrict spare parts or weaponry, at least unlike the US they have a strong record in supplying countries whenever they need it. Iraq learned this during the embargo.
    But why not SU 30 as multi role fighter ? which would be better.

    From this we can see that the Rafale would be better, only it will most likely bring restrictions to Iraq as France is close to the US.
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    Though this still does not fill the need for fighter jets, there is a need for heavier jets like the SU 30 or SU 35.
     
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    Rafale is expensive, and like you said it may see restrictions. As for multi role fighter, wouldn't the F-16 do the job? Depending on how many they're receiving and what it's coming with. If Iraq is looking for a cheaper alternative for a multi role fighter whilst also being effective maybe look at the Jf-17 or Gripen Jas 39 but the Mig is also a multirole fighter.

    The Su-30 could also be one. Depending on what the Iraqi Air Force is looking for.
     
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    US does not want to sell us AIM 120 and the latest version AIM9X sidewinder.
    Also they will restrict spare parts and ammo whenever they want, Iraq is trying to get the same type of weaponry from 2 sources to make sure an embargo will only be from 1 side.

    JF 17 is also in consideration.
     
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    MIG-35 is hardly anything but sexed up Mig-29 [A historic failure]. Buy more F-16s instead.
     
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    Lt Gen Anwer Hamad Ameen Ahmed Commander of Iraqi Air Force with JF-17 Thunder during their visit to Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.

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    Lt Gen Anwer Hamad Ameen Ahmed with CATIC official [JF-17 partner].

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    JF-17 is a good deal for Iraq if it wants a relatively larger fleet to supplement the F-16s with unrestricted weapons access. The Iraqi Commander also tested MFI-Super Mashak basic trainer air craft.

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    But an F16 without amraam is not so usefull
     
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    Then Su-30 would be best alternative, the MKI is also pretty reliable because its a mix if Russian, Indian and Israeli technology. The r-77 missiles will be a good alternative to the AMRAAM.
     
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    Will U.S sell any F-15 to Iraq? It would be great. Also Iraq can look for Rafael or Typhoon. Su-35 also can be a good choice.With these options, Iraqi army can become third best air force in ME after RSAF and IAF in terms of equipment.
     
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    F15 is too high tech, Israel will not allow it.
    I like the F15 but its out of reach for us + useless without AIM 120.

    SU 35 is possible, its an upgraded SU 27, they have offered it to many countries, Iraq should negotioate for this 1.
     
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    The French DR is crazily expensive, remember that Iraq is under the first stages of development. You may go after the Su-30, it's better than the MiG-35 anyway.


    The F-15s are exclusive.. Aside from the USAF, only three main customers are flying the F-15s.. It's a killing machine, so to speak.
     
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    i think mig 35 far superrior to Su 30 sir and i bet on it go for Mig 35 you will get air superiority in the air with this jet better zuck radar it has as similar to F 15 but better than F 15 i think as today