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I just want to ask a question! Is it a requirement for a Muslim to believe that black cumin can heal every disease other than death

Or did Rasulullah (PBUH) really can say suchthing that is completely untrue?

Black cumin seed has been used from ancient times across civilizations for healing purpose. Am suspicious of many Hadith, however in this case it is conceivable that he may have remarked on it. Also possible others said it for its promotion and attributed it to him.
'So far, numerous studies demonstrated the seed of Nigella sativa and its main active constituent, thymoquinone, to be medicinally very effective against various illnesses including different chronic illness: neurological and mental illness, cardiovascular disorders, cancer, diabetes, inflammatory conditions, and infertility as well as various infectious diseases due to bacterial, fungal, parasitic, and viral infections.'
 
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Also possible others said it for its promotion and attributed it to him
This is the fact for most of Hadiths. Bukhari was born 180 years after death of Rasulullah ( PBUH) ! Also in so called Sahih Hadiths , you will find very few Hadiths narrated by Hazrat Abu Bakr , Hazrat Umar , Hazrat Usman , Hazrat Ali and many more prominent Sahabas. These Sahabas knew about Rasulullah ( PBUH) more than anyone , because they were their closest companions.

So why their Hadiths are absent, or why they didn't narrate many Hadiths?

In the end , Hadiths that contradict Quran , are not Hadiths at all. Doesn't matter if it's from so called siah sattah or other books!

seed has been used from ancient times across civilizations for healing purpose. Am suspicious of many Hadith, however in this case it is conceivable that he may have remarked on it.
Well , but he can't remark like that. Black cumin can be used for disease. If I got common cold , even I take it's smell , if cured I don't visit doctor.

But that doesn't mean that it's cure for everything.

He was holiest man and prophet and messenger if Allah , and can't say such word that black cumin can cure everything except death!
 
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In the end , Hadiths that contradict Quran , are not Hadiths at all. Doesn't matter if it's from so called siah sattah was holiest man and prophet and messenger if Allah , and can't say such word that black cumin can cure everything except death!
Eating black cumin doesn't contradict the Quran, but drinking urine does because blood is prohibited which is cleaner than urine (blood impurity). I see the phrase "cure for every disease except death" as a hyperbole. What it means is, good for health and healing across all ailments which it is.

He may have talked about black cumin. The Prophet was a Prophet and a normal human. It is not fair to imagine him only in holy sound bites. A Hadith says some people were doing agricultural work and he suggested a technique, the people asked if it's from God and he said - No. If your way is better go ahead.

Quran 41-6 Say, "I am only a man like you to whom it has been revealed that your god is but one God; so take a straight course to Him and seek His forgiveness." And woe to those who associate others with Allah.
 

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Well middle eastern have been disrespectful of others so let them have a taste of it.

As you sow so shall you reap...
 

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Eating black cumin doesn't contradict the Quran, but drinking urine does because blood is prohibited which is cleaner than urine (blood impurity). I see the phrase "cure for every disease except death" as a hyperbole. What it means is, good for health and healing across all ailments which it is.
Did I say that eating black cumin contradict Quran? I said there are plenty of Hadiths that contradict Quran. But if I start posting all of them it will turn in to religious debate and the result will be moderators crackdown!


However here is one of the Hadiths of drinking camel urine as medicine! Thankfully it's not the cure for everything!

 
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He may have talked about black cumin. The Prophet was a Prophet and a normal human. It is not fair to imagine him only in holy sound bites. A Hadith says some people were doing agricultural work and he suggested a technique, the people asked if it's from God and he said - No. If your way is better go ahead.

Quran 41-6 Say, "I am only a man like you to whom it has been revealed that your god is but one God; so take a straight course to Him and seek His forgiveness." And woe to those who associate others with Allah.
Yes he was a normal human , but the devine commandment holy Quran was brought to him by Jeebril , not to us!

However according to you , even if Muhammad ( PBUH) said something , and if it was necessary for people of later days like us , then these close companions would write them and Hadith collectors get the narrations.

But most of Hadiths came from very minor sahabas! Although there are no concrete evidences ( other than I heard he said , he heard from him that ..... ( Ra) said he heard from Rasulullah (PBUH) said ... Bla bla bla can't be a concrete evidence) , so we can easily say they were narrators own words there.

So in short , they can't be divine commandments , hence can't be part of religion.

So if someone doubt any of these Hadiths , he/she can't be doubted as non Muslim , as someone asked a question to @BananaRepublicUK that if he is a Muslim or not! Period!
 

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So if someone doubt any of these Hadiths , he/she can't be doubted as non Muslim , as someone asked a question to @BananaRepublicUK that if he is a Muslim or not! Period!
Reading Hadith is not in my family religious tradition. When I came across Hadith as an adult I assumed they were correct because of the Sahih title. The traditional approach is to doubt Hadith which is the wise approach. There were hundreds of thousands of fabricated Hadith discarded by scholars almost 3 centuries after the Prophet. The ones that Bukhari kept had a chain of narrators. This is what is labelled Authentic or Sahih, which is like giving them a mark or grade. But, that does not mean the contents are wholly correct, infact they may be entirely false. Thus, authentic does not mean accurate and true. It needs further scrutiny and validation, but Muslim scholarship failed to do it. Their bread and butter depend on narrating Hadith now.
 

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However here is one of the Hadiths of drinking camel urine as medicine!

There are very few mass transmitted Hadith - those which have historical certainty. Shhh. 🤫 This is not widely known, wasn't known to me until couple of years ago. https://seekersguidance.org/answers...-mass-transmited-mutawatir-hadiths-are-there/
'The estimates of how many such mass-transmitted narrations exist, taking into account both mass-transmission in meaning and wording, ranges between 100 to over 300'.
 

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I just want to ask an honest question! Is it a requirement for a Muslim to believe that black cumin can heal every disease except death?

Or did Rasulullah (PBUH) really can say such thing that is completely untrue?


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If he(sm) said that and if it is in Bukhari, it has to be. You cant pick and choose what you like and dislike.

Reading Hadith is not in my family religious tradition. When I came across Hadith as an adult I assumed they were correct because of the Sahih title. The traditional approach is to doubt Hadith which is the wise approach. There were hundreds of thousands of fabricated Hadith discarded by scholars almost 3 centuries after the Prophet. The ones that Bukhari kept had a chain of narrators. This is what is labelled Authentic or Sahih, which is like giving them a mark or grade. But, that does not mean the contents are wholly correct, infact they may be entirely false. Thus, authentic does not mean accurate and true. It needs further scrutiny and validation, but Muslim scholarship failed to do it. Their bread and butter depend on narrating Hadith now.
As I told on my last comment you cant pick and choose. Only because it sounds bad to you today you want to reject it. You may also have issue with certain quran verses. Tomorrow you may question authenticity of quran.
 
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This is the fact for most of Hadiths. Bukhari was born 180 years after death of Rasulullah ( PBUH) ! Also in so called Sahih Hadiths , you will find very few Hadiths narrated by Hazrat Abu Bakr , Hazrat Umar , Hazrat Usman , Hazrat Ali and many more prominent Sahabas. These Sahabas knew about Rasulullah ( PBUH) more than anyone , because they were their closest companions.

So why their Hadiths are absent, or why they didn't narrate many Hadiths?

In the end , Hadiths that contradict Quran , are not Hadiths at all. Doesn't matter if it's from so called siah sattah or other books
Brother please first study the science of hadith then comments. I can pick on you on each line u wrote. Then decided to ask you to read first. Once you study how hadith was transmitted, tgen if u look back at ur cmnts u will see the how funny your comments are.
 

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As I told on my last comment you cant pick and choose. Only because it sounds bad to you today you want to reject it. You may also have issue with certain quran verses. Tomorrow you may question authenticity of quran.
Attacking my faith is ad hominem fallacy. Your purpose should be the truth. For a Muslim, Quran is supreme. I understand the reverence you have for Hadith, but many Hadith contradict the Quran and the Prophet's character. There is a Hadith that depicts the Prophet as a suicidal lunatic who would go every morning, same time, same place to jump off a cliff and every time Angel Jibreel would appear and calm him down.
 

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... that weird Hadith is in Sahih Bukhari! Scholars will say aah ohh weak chain of narrators, then why has it not been demoted. There is a need for further scrutiny and validation. Reading Hadith I picked up so many problems so often that my head was spinning. Another example is in Hadith, Shaitan gets locked up during Ramadan even though Allah in the Quran has granted Shaitan reprieve till the Day of Resurrection.
 

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What would they eat if they boycott Infizn goods. Half of their foodgrain, meat and dairy ptoducts are imported from India. Pakistan also banned Indian stuff and what happened subsequently is known to everyone.
 

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... that weird Hadith is in Sahih Bukhari! Scholars will say aah ohh weak chain of narrators, then why has it not been demoted. There is a need for further scrutiny and validation. Reading Hadith I picked up so many problems so often that my head was spinning. Another example is in Hadith, Shaitan gets locked up during Ramadan even though Allah in the Quran has granted Shaitan reprieve till the Day of Resurrection.
Also Hadiths and other later days invention like ijma and kiyas made things more complicated and turned Islam into heavily ritualistic religion from deen aka complete guidance of life!

That's the reason people take bribes and make Masjid with it and visit Mecca for Hajj and society call the noble men!

My question is , is performing Hajj with Haram money allowed? If you make Masjid with the money you looted by corruption , will Allah accept your namaz there?

What's the point of finding halal food shop outside Muslim majority countries where you will spend haram money?

All are meaningless.
 

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