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I do not see why anyone would be in favor of disbanding armor. Having a big boom boom gun with metal armor that is mobile will ALWAYS be useful.
 

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Abey bhai meray pehley Armenia vs Azerbaijan war hogai , phir Russia vs Ukraine war hogai agar yeh wars proper nahi hain phir aap kya chathey ho 😂
Wt u have seen are battles n skirmishs not war.

Indian army just issued a tender for loitering munitions n swarm drones.
Guess they are reading my posts 🙂
 

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Wt u have seen are battles n skirmishs not war.

Indian army just issued a tender for loitering munitions n swarm drones.
Guess they are reading my posts 🙂
1. How many armies in the world have disbanded their armored formations in recent years ?

2. How many international active orders of MBTs and IFVs have been cancelled ?

Abey bhai meray pehley Armenia vs Azerbaijan war hogai , phir Russia vs Ukraine war hogai agar yeh wars proper nahi hain phir aap kya chathey ho 😂
We can keep USA aside, as USAF dominates the skies before US Army enters the zone, but apart from that which other country can counter the UCAV/UAV threat effectively (90-100%) through its AF in war ?
 

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Let's look at it like this:



India: S400, Barak-8, Akash NG, SPYDER, QRSAM, Strela, Osa, Kub, Shilka, Tunguska, Modernized L-70, Igla, Stinger, anti drone rifle that India bought, Soft and Hard kill APS in the future.

Paksitan: HQ-9, LY-80, HQ-7, Orelikon guns(especially sith AHEAD ammo), Giraffe radar with RBS-70 and Anza, Possible Korkut (or any other SPAAG), Pantsir type system (possibly FK-2000), Soft and Hard kill APS in the future.

Will drones be able to get through this protection?
 
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Let's look at it like this:



India: S400, Barak-8, Akash NG, SPYDER, QRSAM, Strela, Osa, Kub, Shilka, Tunguska, Modernized L-70, Igla, Stinger, anti drone rifle that India bought, Soft and Hard kill APS in the future.

Paksitan: HQ-9, LY-80, HQ-7, Orelikon guns(especially sith AHEAD ammo), Giraffe radar with RBS-70 and Anza, Possible Korkut (or any other SPAAG), Pantsir type system (possibly FK-2000).

Will drones be able to get through this protection?
Nope not initially. Would take massive SEAD/DEAD campaigns to make it possible.
 

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Let's look at it like this:



India: S400, Barak-8, Akash NG, SPYDER, QRSAM, Strela, Osa, Kub, Shilka, Tunguska, Modernized L-70, Igla, Stinger, anti drone rifle that India bought, Soft and Hard kill APS in the future.

Paksitan: HQ-9, LY-80, HQ-7, Orelikon guns(especially sith AHEAD ammo), Giraffe radar with RBS-70 and Anza, Possible Korkut (or any other SPAAG), Pantsir type system (possibly FK-2000), Soft and Hard kill APS in the future.

Will drones be able to get through this protection?
Exclude S400 and Akash NG from this as those are for IAF only.
Additionally the Osa's have been almost phased out as well and Kub only last few regiments are left as well which likely won't be there in future.
 

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Sattar bhai, they'll still be providing AD(especially S400) to IA against PAF and HALE/MALE UAVs
Yea but you didnt include PAF's AD inventory so I thought it was a IA AD vs PA AD comparison.
If IAF AD is included then we might as well as include PAF's HQ9Bs, Spada, while fot future that indigenous SAM project, Crotale modernization project, HQ17A and several other types of SHORADs.
 

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Dismal deployment of MBTs in various conflicts - Syria, Azerbaijan, Ukraine- by various countries have led to MBTs getting their turrets shot in to the sky.
It takes two for a tango. TB2s are the tango partners here, thanks to the engineers' astute observation and meticulous implementation.....

*Top high school grads in Turkey join her engineering departments, and top engineering grads join her defense industries. Merit matters.

Why would a formation go to war without supporting elements ? Coz thats what you saw in Syrian, Ukrainian conflict etc ?
A trillion$ observation. For a reason the Turkish defense industries are spending billions to get that armored supporting elements in terms of armed drones of all sorts (micro to mega), mobile AD of all sorts (including anti-drones), EW, active protection etc. Not to mention calling chopper or fighter support like taxis....
 
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