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Yes you can predict the volume of rain with reasonable accuracy - accurate enough to evacuate and move people to high ground. In Germany, people died because they ignored flood alerts and evacuation orders. I can't understand why anyone would go underground when torrential rain is expected. Underground is the worst place to be. My question is why was the underground/ subway even operational and why would anyone choose to be underground during floods.


It was Monday morning, and this government agency’s supercomputer, a machine the size of a hockey rink, had just generated a model forecast predicting with over 90% certainty and a precision down to 2 square kilometers that a string of West German communities would likely be befallen by severe flooding by late Wednesday.


Nonsense, the heavy rain in Germany is unsual and caught everybody off guard. There are areas in highland Germany which get flooded too. More or less shoe how severe is it. I guess you can't differential what is extreme and normal.

Just like 2011 Japan tsuanmi when some Japanese evacuate to 5th high building which they thought was safe. End up they still got washed away.

The rain in Henan is too fast and too furious which gives no time for warning and stop subway. There is nothing to blame on anybody. If u want to blame, blame heaven or God.
 

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Nonsense, the heavy rain in Germany is unsual and caught everybody off guard. There are areas in highland Germany which get flooded too. More or less shoe how severe is it. I guess you can't differential what is extreme and normal.
Nonsense? I just posted a source saying the German Met office warned local residents of flooding two days before the floods. Their prediction was 90% accurate as to the exact volume of the downpour within an area of 2 square Km. Are you saying the Chinese lack the same capability?

Flooding in highland? :o:Tsunami in Japan? Oh boy! No point discussing this any further With you.

good day beastie:lol:
 

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Nonsense? I just posted a source saying the German Met office warned local residents of flooding two days before the floods. Their prediction was 90% accurate as to the exact volume of the downpour within an area of 2 square Km. Are you saying the Chinese lack the same capability?

Flooding in highland? :o:Tsunami in Japan? Oh boy! No point discussing this any further With you.

good day beastie:lol:
Did Merkel say it will be the most serious flood ever encounter in Germany, tell me? If you can point to real proof she can predict it will be the most serious flood 2 days before it struck. I eat back my word.


So how do China know it will be the most serious rain ever encounter in 1000 years time and that can flood Henan subway in just a hour of rain? You think CCP is God?
 

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Did Merkel say it will be the most serious flood ever encounter in Germany, tell me? If you can point to real proof she can predict it will be the most serious flood 2 days before it struck. I eat back my word.


So how do China know it will be the most serious rain ever encounter in 1000 years time and that can flood Henan subway in just a hour of rain? You think CCP is God?

It's so typical, according to Anti-China troll

Whenever disaster happen in China, must be government fault.
Whenever disaster happen in the west, must be nature fault.
 

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If you can point to real proof she can predict it will be the most serious flood 2 days before it struck. I eat back my word.
This is written by the person that helped set up the forecasting system used by the Germans.
Now be a man and eat your words. Thank you.


The German weather service, DWD, had independently forecast extremely high rainfall tooand issued warnings for more than 200 mm of rain in the same areas several days ahead of time, saying that flooding was possible. Regional warnings were also issued, for example by the Environment Agency in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate, one of the areas hit particularly hard by flooding.

The floods that did happen matched the scale and distribution of those that were forecast several days before. I was very surprised, therefore, that so many people died, given that authorities knew about the event and had sufficient warnings to get people to safety before the floods began.

 

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Video link showing rescue of a family trapped in almost submerged vehicle.
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The story behind the rescue in the video above.

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那个网络流传的视频里“众人合力游泳破窗救人”那幕背后的来龙去脉被《解放日报》的记者采访和还原了。​
这是一个特别牛逼和让人振奋的故事。无论被救者,还是救人者,在生死关头表现出的冷静、智慧、无畏、勇气和爱,都让画面里漂浮水中的那个“孤岛”显得闪闪发光。这就是人性的希望所在吧!​
同时我认为,这也是一个可以写入教科书的自救案例,值得更多人了解。我概括下这个新闻:​
外婆去幼儿园接外孙和外孙女回家。暴雨中,车在路中熄火。大水很快淹至车门。车上三人危在旦夕。​
外婆首先给女儿打电话求助。女儿接到电话,第一个反应是报警。但当时,所有报警电话都是占线。​
女儿让外婆告诉自己车被淹的确切位置。老人在电话中报给女儿她所能看到的周围店铺的名字:一家京东便利店、一家酒店和一家面馆。​
女儿通过搜索外卖和点评软件,最先找到了便利店老板的电话。同时在自己的朋友圈发了求助。​
当时便利店老板正在几公里之外的另一个店铺排险。他二话没说,给便利店旁边的宾馆打了电话,告诉宾馆里的人:门口路中间有辆被淹的车里有人,快去救人!​
正在大堂抢救电脑的宾馆安保部长接到了电话,和宾馆一名18岁的小员工最早冲了出去。他们能随手找到的工具,只有一把菜刀。​
水已经没过车窗。安保部长先爬上了车,试图用菜刀砸开车在的前挡风玻璃和天窗,都失败了。​
这个时候,离事发地不远的一位教过孩子的年轻街舞老师看到了孩子妈妈发的朋友圈,也赶了过来。他脱了衣服,拽着树枝游向水中央。虽然一小段路程,他的包和手机都丢了。​
更多人看到了“孤岛”救人这一幕。他们都向孤岛聚来。一个穿着黑色雨衣的路人递给街舞老师一把锤子。然而锤子太小,几次也没砸开玻璃。​
各种努力失败后,几个人继续施救的同时,也大声向周围求救。​
听到呼救声的附近面店老板,拿着店里的一个更大的锤子也了游过去。这是一个关键的救援工具。此时,水几乎已经要没过车顶了。​
面店老板爬上车顶,先在汽车的后挡风玻璃上凿出一个小洞。第一个递锤子的路人透过这个小洞,安抚车里的外婆和2个孩子。​
这时,汽车左后方的车窗被破开。街舞老师把小男孩拖了出来,接到了车顶。​
又有更多人向“孤岛”游去,加入了救援。有人送来一个蓝色大桶,怕孩子呛水,他们把孩子装进桶里,再送到岸边。​
女孩也被救了出来。最后是老人。​
被救者和救人者挤在车顶上。把孩子围在最中间。有人为孩子撑起了一把大红伞。​
那个视频的拍摄者对记者说:“这个画面,好像汪洋中的一座孤岛,而这座岛却让人充满力量和希望。”​
救人者的名字分别是:卢联盟、李坤朋、王志磊、李祥……(还有我未看全,大家可帮补充)​

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The ins and outs behind the scene of "everyone swimming breaking windows to save people" in the video circulated on the Internet were interviewed and restored by a reporter from Jiefang Daily(Liberation Daily).

This is a particularly awesome and exciting story. The calmness, wisdom, fearlessness, courage and love shown by both the rescued and the savior at the moment of life and death make the "isolated island" in the floating water appear gleaming. This is where the hope of humanity lies!

At the same time, I think this is also a self-help case that can be written into a textbook, and it deserves more people to understand. Let me summarize this news:

Grandma went to the kindergarten to pick up her grandson and granddaughter home. During the heavy rain, the car engine stalled on the road. The flood water soon flooded up to the car door. The three people in the car are at risk.

Grandma first called her daughter for help. When daughter received the call, her first reaction was to call the police. But at the time, all the emergency line were busy.

The daughter asked her grandmother to tell her exactly where the car was flooded. The grandmother reported to her daughter the names of the surrounding shops she could see on the phone: a JD convenience store, a hotel, and a noodle shop.

The daughter searched for takeaway and review software and found the phone number of the convenience store owner first. At the same time, she asked for help in her social media circle of friends.

At the time, the convenience store owner was arranging emergency preparation in another store a few kilometers away. Without saying a word, he called the hotel next to the convenience store and told the people in the hotel: There is someone in a flooded car in the middle of the road at the entrance, go and save them!

The security director of the hotel who was fixing computer in the lobby received the call and rushed out with an 18-year-old employee of the hotel. The only tool they could find was a kitchen knife.

The water has gone through the car window. The security director climbed up the car first and tried to smash the front windshield and sunroof with the kitchen knife, but failed.

At this time, a young street dance teacher who had taught children not far from the place where the incident happened saw the social media message posted by the child’s mother and rushed over. He took off his clothes and swam towards the middle of the water, dragging through branches. Although he was a short distance away, both his bag and cell phone were lost.

More people have discover the scene of "Lone Island" saving people. They all converged to the isolated island. A passerby in a black raincoat handed the street dance teacher a hammer. However, the hammer was too small to break the glass even after several tries.

After various efforts failed, they continued to rescue them, but they also called out loudly for help.

The owner of the noodle shop nearby, who heard the call for help, swam toward them with a bigger hammer in the shop. This is a key rescue tool. At this point, the water almost passed the roof of the car.

The noodle shop owner climbed onto the roof of the car and first put a small hole in the rear windshield of the car. The first passerby that brought the small hammer talked through this small hole to comfort the grandmother and the two children in the car.

By this time, the rear left window of the car was broken open. The street dance teacher dragged the little boy out and received it on the roof of the car.

More people swam to the "island" and joined the rescue. Someone sent a big blue bucket, fearing that the child would choke water, they put the child in the bucket and sent it to safety.

The girl was also rescued. Finally, the elderly grandma.

The rescued and rescuers all squeezed on top of the roof of the car with the child in the middle. Someone held up a big red umbrella for the child.

The photographer of that video told reporters: "This picture is like an isolated island in the ocean, but this island is full of power and hope."

The names of the rescuers are: Lu Lianlian, Li Kunpeng, Wang Zhilei, Li Xiang...

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This is written by the person that helped set up the forecasting system used by the Germans.
Now be a man and eat your words. Thank you.


The German weather service, DWD, had independently forecast extremely high rainfall tooand issued warnings for more than 200 mm of rain in the same areas several days ahead of time, saying that flooding was possible. Regional warnings were also issued, for example by the Environment Agency in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate, one of the areas hit particularly hard by flooding.

The floods that did happen matched the scale and distribution of those that were forecast several days before. I was very surprised, therefore, that so many people died, given that authorities knew about the event and had sufficient warnings to get people to safety before the floods began.

Stop shifting goalpost. Where did it predict it will be the worst flood ever hit Germany? I am asking a simple question which u yet to answer, I am still waiting for your real answer.

Extremely highfall does not equal to worst rainfall and flood ever hit Germany. No German can knew the magnitude of it until you tell them it will be worst ever. Do u want me to get an english teacher to help you understand the different?
 

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Nonsense? I just posted a source saying the German Met office warned local residents of flooding two days before the floods. Their prediction was 90% accurate as to the exact volume of the downpour within an area of 2 square Km. Are you saying the Chinese lack the same capability?

Flooding in highland? :o:Tsunami in Japan? Oh boy! No point discussing this any further With you.

good day beastie:lol:
dbc, give you a warning. Leave this topic. Don't troll bulshit again about the disaster.
 

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Stop shifting goalpost. Where did it predict it will be the worst flood ever hit Germany? I am asking a simple question which u yet to answer, I am still waiting for your real answer.

Extremely highfall does not equal to worst rainfall and flood ever hit Germany. No German can knew the magnitude of it until you tell them it will be worst ever. Do u want me to get an english teacher to help you understand the different?
dbc, give you a warning. Leave this topic. Don't troll bulshit again about the disaster.
This kind of so called think tank @dbc really ruin down the reputation of this forum.

Even those indian trolls have better ethics than him

@The Eagle @Slav Defence @Foxtrot Alpha


Keep trolling on other's country disaster.
Really disgusting
 
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This kind of so called think tank @dbc really ruin down the reputation of this forum.

Even those indian trolls have better ethics than him

@The Eagle @Slav Defence @Foxtrot Alpha


Keep trolling on other's country disaster.
Really disgusting
Why did he draw cartoons and make fun of the dead like the Chinese media did on the wuhan virus deaths in India ?
The super efficient Chinese communist government is being exposed on a yearly basis by these unrelenting floods.
Last year too many Chinese cities got totally flooded and so many died. I thought all the dam building would have resolved this age old problem in china ?
I get the feeling that the Chinese government doesn't really care about its citizens or else in 80 years of communism, all these problems would have been tackled.
 

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This kind of so called think tank @dbc really ruin down the reputation of this forum.

Even those indian trolls have better ethics than him

@The Eagle @Slav Defence @Foxtrot Alpha


Keep trolling on other's country disaster.
Really disgusting
I’m asking a legitimate question a 150 people died in Germany their problem wasn’t advanced warning. Their weather services predicted the rainfall with a 90% accuracy days before.

In Germany a combination of factors resulted in avoidable deaths.
- residents ignored the warning to evacuate but sheltered in place
- the government failed to act effectively

I’m asking a simple question why did people take the underground when they knew floods were expected. Why didn’t local government shut down the underground service?

I‘m not sure why this topic is sensitive. Yes people died in Texas too during the winter freeze did I stop the Chinese from discussing it?

My last post on this topic. Good day..
 

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I’m asking a legitimate question a 150 people died in Germany their problem wasn’t advanced warning. Their weather services predicted the rainfall with a 90% accuracy days before.

In Germany a combination of factors resulted in avoidable deaths.
- residents ignored the warning to evacuate but sheltered in place
- the government failed to act effectively

I’m asking a simple question why did people take the underground when they knew floods were expected. Why didn’t local government shut down the underground service?

I‘m not sure why this topic is sensitive. Yes people died in Texas too during the winter freeze did I stop the Chinese from discussing it?

My last post on this topic. Good day..
Good luck expecting the Chinese here to acknowledge that their communist government screwed up by not closing the subway. They have a need to look superior and are not used to probing questions. Probably will throw tantrums now.
 

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