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The report also indicts HAL for taking 2-3 times more man-hours than those taken by Russians.


What was supposed to be cheaper when made in India is much costlier. What was supposed to be a joint development programme has been reduced to a purchase from abroad. That is among the key findings of internal government audits of major aerospace projects in recent years.

All the aerospace reports accessed by The Hindu are scathing in their indictment of agencies such as the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. over the way they have handled joint development programmes involving foreign partners, or produced aircraft in India under transfer of technology.


The IAF entered into four different contracts with HAL for supply of the 140 aircraft, and later two contracts for 40 and 42 additional fighters.

Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters

HAL was originally tasked by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) with undertaking licence production of 140 Sukhoi-30 fighters under transfer of technology from Russia, with conditions including: indigenous manufacture of the aircraft at a cost lower than that of the imported aircraft.

The IAF entered into four different contracts with HAL for supply of the 140 aircraft, and later two contracts for 40 and 42 additional fighters. Thus a total of 222 S-30 MKI were to be assembled by HAL. When HAL began to assemble, however, the story was different. “Contrary to projection in the CCS note, where it was estimated that the indigenous aircraft production cost would be lower than that of the imported aircraft cost… the actual cost of phase IV aircraft has always been higher than that of the imported aircraft,” the report says.

In the production year 2014-15 in phase I, when aircraft was directly imported from Russia, the average cost per fighter was Rs. 270.28 crore. In phase IV, when aircraft is manufactured by HAL from raw material, the cost is Rs. 417.85 crore.

The report also indicts HAL for taking 2-3 times more man-hours than those taken by Russians.

Advanced Light Helicopter

An audit of the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) project of HAL from 2001 to 2009 carried out by the Controller-General of Defence Accounts (CGDA) pointed out: “As against the envisaged indigenisation level of 50 per cent, about 90 per cent of the value of material used in each helicopter is procured from foreign suppliers.”

The audit said that during the production of the helicopter, despite gaining experience of making 90 of them, the labour hours remained almost double of what was prescribed by the consultant.

The Air Marshal Matheswaran report on the aeronautical sector points out that the Shakti engine used in the helicopter “only has an indigenous name with hardly any self-reliance or technology control.”


Missile development

The Matheswaran report points out that in 2003, a decision was taken to allow the services to meet their operational requirements of surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), till 2010, by acquiring through the “buy global” route because the development of the indigenous Akash and Trishul missile systems was delayed.

The DRDO stepped in and proposed joint development with Israel. So the DRDO and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) started development of a long-range SAM (LRSAM) for the Navy in 2005. In 2007, they started work on developing a medium-range SAM (MRSAM) for the IAF under a separate contract. “Incidentally, LRSAM & MRSAM is the same missile,” the report says.

In a scathing indictment of the entire project, the report says IAI remains the design authority for the complete system. “IAI is doing the role of supplier and the DRDO is the buyer, which is contrary to the DRDO role of design agency.”

“No transfer of technology (ToT) has been taken as part of the contract. We will remain dependent on IAI for its share,” the report points out, adding that the intellectual property rights (IPRs) remains with the design authority.

Conflict of interests

The report also tears into the Department of Defence Production.

“The DDP, which on behalf of the Services and the MoD would have been the instrument of indigenisation, became primarily a custodian of a large collection of ordnance factories and de-facto owner of shipyards, aircraft factories etc.”

This resulted in a conflict of interest, the report says.

Made in India is costlier; joint development is mere purchase - The Hindu




This ties in with what I witnessed at HAL and DRDO when we were inducted into a joint project with HAL and THALES when I worked for THALES. The level of productivity is jaw dropping , even the lowliest factory making furniture would be 10 times more efficient, and the ability to learn even the basics of science and technology is non existent. They don't learn and they don't want to learn as these organizations have nothing to do with defense production but are part of a deeply sick state where politicians retain power in manipulating their turf. They have a following amongst the chest thumping morons ( usually on defense forums } who egg on such pseudo nationalistic inefficiencies without realizing they are achieving the exact opposite of self-reliance or achieving the best outcome for the Indian defense personnel and India.

Defense is the last thing these broken institutions are capable of, but they are a fertile hunting ground for politicians who want to appear uber-patriotic and retain a powerful piece of turf, the unthinking herd of uber-patriots who froth at the mouth when even the simplest of debacles are pointed out are the bovine herd that stands behind these policies and institutions.
 

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Well of course it is costlier, R&D gets easier in the long term.
 

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The report also indicts HAL for taking 2-3 times more man-hours than those taken by Russians.


What was supposed to be cheaper when made in India is much costlier. What was supposed to be a joint development programme has been reduced to a purchase from abroad. That is among the key findings of internal government audits of major aerospace projects in recent years.

All the aerospace reports accessed by The Hindu are scathing in their indictment of agencies such as the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. over the way they have handled joint development programmes involving foreign partners, or produced aircraft in India under transfer of technology.


The IAF entered into four different contracts with HAL for supply of the 140 aircraft, and later two contracts for 40 and 42 additional fighters.

Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters

HAL was originally tasked by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) with undertaking licence production of 140 Sukhoi-30 fighters under transfer of technology from Russia, with conditions including: indigenous manufacture of the aircraft at a cost lower than that of the imported aircraft.

The IAF entered into four different contracts with HAL for supply of the 140 aircraft, and later two contracts for 40 and 42 additional fighters. Thus a total of 222 S-30 MKI were to be assembled by HAL. When HAL began to assemble, however, the story was different. “Contrary to projection in the CCS note, where it was estimated that the indigenous aircraft production cost would be lower than that of the imported aircraft cost… the actual cost of phase IV aircraft has always been higher than that of the imported aircraft,” the report says.

In the production year 2014-15 in phase I, when aircraft was directly imported from Russia, the average cost per fighter was Rs. 270.28 crore. In phase IV, when aircraft is manufactured by HAL from raw material, the cost is Rs. 417.85 crore.

The report also indicts HAL for taking 2-3 times more man-hours than those taken by Russians.

Advanced Light Helicopter

An audit of the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) project of HAL from 2001 to 2009 carried out by the Controller-General of Defence Accounts (CGDA) pointed out: “As against the envisaged indigenisation level of 50 per cent, about 90 per cent of the value of material used in each helicopter is procured from foreign suppliers.”

The audit said that during the production of the helicopter, despite gaining experience of making 90 of them, the labour hours remained almost double of what was prescribed by the consultant.

The Air Marshal Matheswaran report on the aeronautical sector points out that the Shakti engine used in the helicopter “only has an indigenous name with hardly any self-reliance or technology control.”


Missile development

The Matheswaran report points out that in 2003, a decision was taken to allow the services to meet their operational requirements of surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), till 2010, by acquiring through the “buy global” route because the development of the indigenous Akash and Trishul missile systems was delayed.

The DRDO stepped in and proposed joint development with Israel. So the DRDO and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) started development of a long-range SAM (LRSAM) for the Navy in 2005. In 2007, they started work on developing a medium-range SAM (MRSAM) for the IAF under a separate contract. “Incidentally, LRSAM & MRSAM is the same missile,” the report says.

In a scathing indictment of the entire project, the report says IAI remains the design authority for the complete system. “IAI is doing the role of supplier and the DRDO is the buyer, which is contrary to the DRDO role of design agency.”

“No transfer of technology (ToT) has been taken as part of the contract. We will remain dependent on IAI for its share,” the report points out, adding that the intellectual property rights (IPRs) remains with the design authority.

Conflict of interests

The report also tears into the Department of Defence Production.

“The DDP, which on behalf of the Services and the MoD would have been the instrument of indigenisation, became primarily a custodian of a large collection of ordnance factories and de-facto owner of shipyards, aircraft factories etc.”

This resulted in a conflict of interest, the report says.

Made in India is costlier; joint development is mere purchase - The Hindu




This ties in with what I witnessed at HAL and DRDO when we were inducted into a joint project with HAL and THALES when I worked for THALES. The level of productivity is jaw dropping , even the lowliest factory making furniture would be 10 times more efficient, and the ability to learn even the basics of science and technology is non existent. They don't learn and they don't want to learn as these organizations have nothing to do with defense production but are part of a deeply sick state where politicians retain power in manipulating their turf. They have a following amongst the chest thumping morons ( usually on defense forums } who egg on such pseudo nationalistic inefficiencies without realizing they are achieving the exact opposite of self-reliance or achieving the best outcome for the Indian defense personnel and India.

Defense is the last thing these broken institutions are capable of, but they are a fertile hunting ground for politicians who want to appear uber-patriotic and retain a powerful piece of turf, the unthinking herd of uber-patriots who froth at the mouth when even the simplest of debacles are pointed out are the bovine herd that stands behind these policies and institutions.
So Its Costly affair R&D Which Get through these Projects Never be Wasted
 

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I was humbly thinking how bad things must be for Pakistan to never succeed in the eir Indian attacks. Indian corruption is pretty famous, on top much of the old British era junk and then Commie junk USSR style, and no money for spares thanks to !ental Congress blowing money on Socialist pie-inthe-sky for the poor projects leading to mass loot; and yet military precision style Pak. with evil plans for India couldn't succeed. No blame game, just saying.

Or were things even worse Pak. side.

Sad, 2 bhooke-nange-poongey log clashing with junk and ending up a draw. Time pass .
 

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