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Damned if you do it , damned if you don’t.
If the PM says nothing and a candidate is picked - Pakistan Army controls the country

If he does say something and the candidate still turns out best on merit - the PA controls the country and the PM made a joke.

Drama isn’t the PM or cabinet but the Pakistani people
 

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Regret to say that it is not a 'Face saving' for both the parties. Instead it is a clear message from Imran Khan that he is the 'Boss' and that he only decided in favour of the Army's choice after ensuring that the new DG ISI was up to the mark. The delay of almost a month also emphasises that it is IK who decides when the change should take place.

It is the 'Establishment' that has to somehow save the face. Admittedly one can also interpret it as " The Army had their way" and IK saved the face by delaying the appointment by almost a month. But In my humble opinion, my first interpretation is more accurate.
I am not happy with IK "scent marking " one of the best and functional institutions of Pakistan, which is critical for national security and performing above and beyond the miniscule budget its given.
Making such institutions a political football leads to downfall.
I dread the day ISI falls. Then IK or any other politician will not have a country to rule.
 

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IK does not want Lt Gen Anjum as DG ISI for the reasons only he knows
When you are talking about national interest, make sure either you know or you don't. IK and Nadeem Anjum didn't serve in infantry together, after all I know so he don't the person like that unless the representations of all 3 people. In reality, as what we all know that it was the case when IK wanted Faiz Hameed to serve more but then, COAS and DG ISI himself briefed the legal process, SoP and need of change of command.
 

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You can support your own theory. We can only see what is publicly available, as in Pakistani political commentary ‘insider’ gossipe (Bajwa na PM sa kaha blah nblah) is all BS.
So far PM happy, old ISI chief happy, new ISI chief happy and Bajwa still happy.
exactly.
 

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i am sorry but that's just BS face saving story in my humble opinion. Also the only new precedent set was the level of awkwardness and mazaq it created around ISPR and Armed forces. Also yes i think this is the first time a DG ISI is appointment against the will of PM, again you are more than welcome to differ with my opinions.
Agreed
You have to be seriously naive or stupid to actually believe this BS :rolleyes1:

Setting a new precedent would have been to hold COAS or ISPR accountable, or choosing another equally competent officer to take over the position just to make a point.

All that was done here is topi drama that ultimately resulted in yet another u-turn by IK.
I am so glad to see that we have patriots who want accountability for the generals (just like everyone else should be accountable). The more of us there are, the less of a monopoly they'll have.
 

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ISLAMABAD:
Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday approved the appointment of Lt General Nadeem Ahmed Anjum, the Corps Commander Karachi, as new director general of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), bringing an end to not just the uncertainty surrounding the sensitive matter but also apparent civil-military deadlock.
Although the prime minister finally picked the same general, who was named as new spymaster in October 6 press release of military's media wing, he has set a new precedent for the appointment of DG ISI in the future.
It was for the first time that the prime minister interviewed potential candidates before finalising the name of new spy chief sent by the Ministry of Defence.
Since 2000, it was only in 2012 when the announcement of new DG ISI came from the PM office and even that too was terse statement making no mention of either the interviews or consultations with the army chief. On all other occasions the announcement of ISI Chief was made by ISPR, military’s media wing.
In fact last two appointments during the current government also came from the ISPR. But only this time PM Imran objected to the past practice and insisted that he would make the final call, triggering an unprecedented standoff between the civil and military leadership who previously claimed to be on the same page.
Also read: Govt confirms ‘stalemate’ in DG ISI’s appointment
The deadlock seemed to have broken after both sides reached a compromise. While the prime minister agreed to stick with the army chief's nominee for the coveted slot, the chief of army staff conceded that authority to appoint the DG ISI rested with the premier.
PM Imran also managed to prevail upon the army chief as far as interviewing the candidates for the ISI chief slot was concerned. It never happened in the past that any serving general was interviewed by the PM before being appointed DG ISI.
Prime Minister Imran also made clear he was the final authority to decide when the incumbent would relinquish the office and new one take over.
As per the October 6 official statement of the ISPR the new DG ISI was supposed to take charge immediately but the notification now issued by the PM Office stated that the incumbent would continue as country’s spymaster till November 20.
A notification issued by the PM Office on Tuesday said: “The Prime Minister has seen and approved the appointment of Lt Gen Nadeem Ahmed Anjum, HI (M) as Director General Inter-Services Intelligence, with effect from November 20, 2021”.
The notification added that the incumbent spymaster, Lt Gen Faiz Hameed “shall continue to hold charge as the Director General Inter-Services Intelligence till November 19, 2021”.

The development came after Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa called on PM Imran.
"The meeting was part of the ongoing consultation process between the Prime Minister and Chief of Army Staff about the timing of change of command in ISI and selection of the new DG ISI," PM Office said in a statement.

During this process a list of officers was received from Ministry of Defence. The prime minister interviewed all the nominees. A final round of consultation was held between the prime minister and the army chief earlier today.
"After detailed consultative process, name of Lt Gen Nadeem Anjum was approved as new DG ISI," the statement said adding that the designate DG ISI shall assume charge on November 20, 2021.

The ISI is a premier Intelligence agency of Pakistan tasked to deal with internal and external threats. Theoretically, its head reports to the prime minister.

Who is Gen Nadeem
The incoming DG ISI, as per the ISPR, was commissioned in the Light Anti-Tank Battalion of the Punjab Regiment. He has diversified experience of command, staff and instructional assignments, according to the ISPR.
He is a graduate of the Combined Arms Centre, UK; Staff College, Quetta, Advance Staff Course, UK, the NDU, Islamabad, the APCSS, USA and the Royal College of Defence Studies, UK. He holds a Master’s degree from the King’s College, London and the NDU Islamabad.
Also read: Govt downplays DG ISI appointment impasse
“General has vast experience of command in conventional as well as sub conventional threat environment,” read the ISPR statement. It added that he had been on command on both the western border and the LOC besides long service in Balochistan.
Gen Nadeem commanded an infantry brigade in South Waziristan agency, an infantry brigade in Kurram agency and Hangu during the Operation Zarb-e-Azb and he was IGFC Balochistan during the Operation Raddul Fasad.
He has been an instructor at the PMA, Staff College and the NDU. He has been commandant of the Staff College, Quetta. He has also been chief of staff of 5 Corps. His last assignment was Commander 5 Corps, Sindh. “General is keen runner and enjoys playing basketball and cricket,” the ISPR statement said.
The ISI is a premier Intelligence agency of Pakistan tasked to deal with internal and external threats. Theoretically, its head reports to the prime minister. The incoming ISI chief will have his hands full in dealing with multiple challenges particularly the Afghan situation and tensions with India.

:omghaha:
 

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Respect to Imran Khan for ensure he did his part of Job , to review the appointment and also give respect to other Candidates that their application was reviewed by both Military and Prime Minister

The Dual interview ensures , their is consensus and cooperation between Prime Minister's point of view and Military

Applaudable move by Prime Minister
 

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The new ISI chiefs agenda is full:

Consolidate Afghanistan further

Keep the Indian forces warm and restless without any lapses whatsoever

Keep the domestic proxy traitor scums like PDM, PTM, Sherifs, Zardaris etc. at the bay till they’re dead and gone forever

Ensure the continuation of the patriotic regime and its major programs at any cost

Keep dancing the tango with the Imperialists as long as possible



Etc.
 

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The new ISI chiefs agenda is full:

Consolidate Afghanistan further

Keep the Indian forces warm and restless without any lapses whatsoever

Keep the domestic proxy traitor scums like PDM, PTM, Sherifs, Zardaris etc. at the bay till they’re dead and gone forever

Ensure the continuation of the patriotic regime and its major programs at any cost

Keep dancing the tango with the Imperialists as long as possible



Etc.
We need to be more aggressive in Kashmir now since Afghanistan is clear.
The more we pressure india in Kashmir the less resources they have to support terrorists in Pakistan.
 

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i am sorry but that's just BS face saving story in my humble opinion. Also the only new precedent set was the level of awkwardness and mazaq it created around ISPR and Armed forces. Also yes i think this is the first time a DG ISI is appointment against the will of PM, again you are more than welcome to differ with my opinions.
It's PM Imran Khan's final decision when or who to appoint as DG ISI. Army chief can only give recommendations. Final authority rests with PM of Pakistan as DG ISI reports to him directly.
Whatever Mazaq that was created was done by Bughaz Imran media so you need not to worry about that.
It is useless exercise.
It's not. Army chief wanted General Faiz to be transferred immediately. PM Imran Khan transferred him for 20th November as it is his authority to do do so not army chief's
You have to be seriously naive or stupid to actually believe this BS :rolleyes1:

Setting a new precedent would have been to hold COAS or ISPR accountable, or choosing another equally competent officer to take over the position just to make a point.

All that was done here is topi drama that ultimately resulted in yet another u-turn by IK.
Only topi drama there was Bughaz Imran media making it a national security issue which it wasn't
Pmln camp is smiling after nadeem anjum appointment.
Why? Because he is their guy like Chief election commissioner?
So he approved the same guy which the military had already declared as the replacement nearly 3 weeks ago.

What's so unprecedented in that? He did what he was told to do.
Army chief wanted him transfered immediately. PM Imran Khan wanted some delay and he got it.
 

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What was the point of all this drama?
Ask Bughaz Imran media that created this drama
God knows --- superstition? Desperation to keep the current guy there for a little longer? COAS making the announcement through ISPR without the PM's explicit approval --- and therefore the PM having to make a (weak) attempt at showing who's boss?

The best part is --- if it's such a big issue and somebody (COAS) who reports to you (PM) went behind your back, shouldn't you first ask for his resignation IF your stance is based purely on principle, rule of law, etc?

What a circus.
It's PM Imran Khan's authority to appoint / transfer DG ISI as he reports directly to him. Army chief can recommend names but he cannot alone decide on the matter. After detailed discussion PM Imran Khan agreed to transfer current DG ISI on 20th November over ruling army chief who wanted him transfered immediately.
Drama isn’t the PM or cabinet but the Pakistani people
Drama isn't the people but Bughaz Imran media that needlessly created noise on the issue which was entirely between PM and Army Chief
 
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