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This is too funny. What reforms did he make in 44 months?


I swear, Insafis have a whole alternate universe to themselves.
Kasmay. In reality, the bourgeois was given huge tax amnesties, and the working class were made to bear the colossal, ever-increasing burden of indirect taxation.
 

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An army veteran and highly respected top miltary General, Lt. Gen Amjad Shoaib (R) has shared his views about the foreign intervention/conspiracy in a recent video. He quoted quite a few foreign sources and also elaborated what he believes regarding current situation of the Pakistan.

He quoted American author Paul Craig Roberts "Washington purchased the corrupt Pakistani Parliament but lost the Pakistani people"

And an American senator Cynthia ~Mikni~ is also of the view that US played it's role in ousting of PM IK because Pakistan's growing ties with Russia, Pakistan not being part of the sanctions imposed on Russia, his straightforward refusal for the provision of any kind of airspace/bases access for CIA to keep up it's drone attacks program in the region and also due to IK's open support for people of Palestine as well etc.

Famous Arab thinker Qasim Hazraj said that Russia is enduring that much damage by attacking Ukraine to overthrow Zelensky's Govt. There has been a lot of loss of life and material on both sides. But look at the trickery of the US, that they overthrew a Pakistani Govt without firing a single bullet.

Lt. Gen Amjad Shoaib (R) further explained that Because people of Ukraine stood united and firm with their Govt, perhaps and decided that we would fight and would get badly bruised by the bully but wouldn't be subservient to the outsiders. Perhaps Russians couldn't find treacherous sell outs in Ukrainian Parliament against the Govt as Ukraine was facing similar threats from Russia. But unfortunately many of the sell outs were found in our Parliament and that's bad luck and unfortunate for the Pakistani nation, as they are the ones who would have suffer eventually.

He further said that it's unfortunate for the people of Pakistan that the politicians who should be convicted and serving their terms in jail have now become the ruling Govt of the Pakistan.

Lt General Amjad Shoaib further said that same western powers did the same arrangement (conspiracy) in General Musharraf's era in which UK ambassador also played a vital role. After realizing that the current regime under Musharraf isn't anymore good for them and Musharraf started to ask for the answers about US/NATO's actual endgame plans about Afghanistan (due to some suspicions between them perhaps). General Musharraf wasn't willing to cooperate with the west anymore before he gets clarity about the West's future game plan. So they arranged an NRO deal for the corrupt political leadership in exile from the Musharraf. Because that leadership in exile would better serve the western powers from then on. Westerners also united both the PPP and PMLN under the charter of democracy by saying that your actual rival is the Pakistani military so you should unite with each other against them.

So that's how they came back into power and the military was sidelined and somewhat suppressed (memo-gate scandal, dawn leaks scandal, defaming military and serving the west very well) for the time being. But then they were shocked and hurt to see that a third political power in shape of Imran Khan PTI risen up with the public support. So the Govt of PTI didn't serve the US/UK like a nice, obedient slave they were used to with previously. So they overthrew his Govt before IK create more issues for them.

But IK got immense Public support when his regime was topples. So as per Lt. Gen Amjad Shoaib the teams of Bilawal and Nawaz Sharif have gathered again in London after getting NRO 2.0. They would now in a similar fashion carve out a newly modified Charter of Democracy 2.0 against IK with the help of the west because now their challenger is different, they can't cry out loud against military dictatorship now. So they would make some necessary modifications for the charter of democracy 2.0 plan accordingly.

So as patriotic Pakistani, we should all unite against that western interferences and conspiracies and put an end to this vicious cycle of humiliation and slavery. Regardless of your profession or political affiliation, the people of Pakistan should stand united against these blatant interventions which has ruined our Govt structures and has made our country into a banana republic. If you have some limitations to not support this national cause due to any (professional/non-professional) reasons then it's okay, we may respect and understand your limitations. We should still respect and support each other for the greater cause.

I would request you all to plz don't ridicule, suppress, frustrate, create hurdles for the people who are trying to raise their voices and fight against that cancerous issue which has caused our country to this very grave situation. I urge all of the people of Pakistan to stay united and at least try to be at the right side of the history. I pray to Allah that none of us astray to the wrong path and keep us all at the righteous path, the path of thy blessings. Ameen.


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It is both America and Pakistani corrupt establishment [both military and civilian] lost the people of Pakistan Now establishment can enjoy the rule and make money
 

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Well looks like the Military Overlords are in full action. Giving out lectures to us Mortals because we Mortals are too dumb, and the Overlords know it all.
 

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Kasmay. In reality, the bourgeois was given huge tax amnesties, and the working class were made to bear the colossal, ever-increasing burden of indirect taxation.
Man someone tell them about all those tax amnesty schemes... Man some people are so down the rabbit-hole that to them that is their whole world. And to think that the same people consider themselves some sort of Experts on political economy. They also talk a good deal about geo-strategy.

It is both America and Pakistani corrupt establishment [both military and civilian] lost the people of Pakistan Now establishment can enjoy the rule and make money
As if Establishment was somehow short of cash.... :crazy:
 

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Man someone tell them about all those tax amnesty schemes... Man some people are so down the rabbit-hole that to them that is their whole world. And to think that the same people consider themselves some sort of Experts on political economy. They also talk a good deal about geo-strategy.


As if Establishment was somehow short of cash.... :crazy:
They have overdosed on their "shaoor kai katray."
 

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Army thought he is too extreme with relations to USA
He was a threat to elites for taxation refroms
Was acting in populus manner i.e subsidies and economic mismanagement/oil subsidy
Still not clear sir, which of IK's statement/action/impression/gesture made him threat or "extreme with relation to USA"? As long as I know, he always said "we want friendly relations with US, not a slave-master relationship". Do you think establishment wants to protect this slave-master US-Pak relationship and that's why they ousted IK? If so, what is the interest of establishment in that?

Your second and third points if combined, read like "IK intended to increase taxes (/tax collection) from elite and give subsidies to low income". How does it justify ousting him by establishment? Or you are saying that establishment is there to protect elite and sacrifice poor??
 

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Then stop prescribing behavior patterns that please you. No body owes you anything here. Only the soundness of your argument matters & in that respect you have absolutely nothing to show.
Stop trying to dictate, for intelligent people there is plenty to understand. I am not your 5th grade student learn some manners now although looks like you have only learned to bully who easily get bullied.
 

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Man someone tell them about all those tax amnesty schemes... Man some people are so down the rabbit-hole that to them that is their whole world. And to think that the same people consider themselves some sort of Experts on political economy. They also talk a good deal about geo-strategy.


As if Establishment was somehow short of cash.... :crazy:
Those amnesties are way better than NRO or business loan waivers or PMLN (Pakistan Money Laundering Network) and NRO 2.0. At least country gains something from those amnesty schemes rather than both the US sponsored NROs and fake Charter of Democracy to screw Pakistan once again.
 

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Man someone tell them about all those tax amnesty schemes... Man some people are so down the rabbit-hole that to them that is their whole world. And to think that the same people consider themselves some sort of Experts on political economy. They also talk a good deal about geo-strategy.


As if Establishment was somehow short of cash.... :crazy:

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JB property thi hi nhi to Qatari khat r Calibri font ki kia zarurt thi???
Plz answer the question

Plz send this whole family to Arshad Sahirf's program for once only! He can definitely arrange a special episode in UAE, If absconders still hesitate a bit to comeback. I would also donate my whole platelets to MNS just to make him attend this show "safely". He might also need constant help of defibrillators for this show bit I hope Qatari nurses would do a fine job on that.

After that, I would never argue with you and vote for PMLN for my whole life.
 
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An army veteran and highly respected top miltary General, Lt. Gen Amjad Shoaib (R) has shared his views about the foreign intervention/conspiracy in a recent video. He quoted quite a few foreign sources and also elaborated what he believes regarding current situation of the Pakistan.

He quoted American author Paul Craig Roberts "Washington purchased the corrupt Pakistani Parliament but lost the Pakistani people"

Do you have any idea who Paul Craig Roberts is ?
 

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Still not clear sir, which of IK's statement/action/impression/gesture made him threat or "extreme with relation to USA"? As long as I know, he always said "we want friendly relations with US, not a slave-master relationship". Do you think establishment wants to protect this slave-master US-Pak relationship and that's why they ousted IK? If so, what is the interest of establishment in that?

Your second and third points if combined, read like "IK intended to increase taxes (/tax collection) from elite and give subsidies to low income". How does it justify ousting him by establishment? Or you are saying that establishment is there to protect elite and sacrifice poor??
Saying america isnt out master is too extreme for country who did 90% of time USA bidding

Its justifies outing him because

یہ وطن تمہارا ہے
اس میں خوامخواہ ہیں ہم
 

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How can you say such a thing? PA has delivered a thousand times more than these corrupt politicians. Do you know who is behind IK and PTI? They given us the Nukes, indigenous aircrafts, ships, subs, tanks and valiantly defended our borders. Politicians can't even defend our constitution.
"They gave us nukes."

Cambridge-trained physicists were just there for photo ops. Fauji se voh aik equation solve ho jaey tau barri baat hai.

Everybody is in the same boat. Nobody is saying politicians should be trusted either. The Army is not a holy cow.

I am sure COAS Bajwa has better things to do than waste time with squabbling petty minded politicians; he has a nation to defend from enemies within and along the external borders and beyond and an army to run.

He's definitely doing a great job.

Indian-backed proxies kill our people at will. There's something every week. What response is their in India? How many RAW officers have disappeared? How many tit-for-tat attacks have there been? How does Bajwa the dove plan to deter Doval?

Wake up.
 

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"They gave us nukes."

Cambridge-trained physicists were just there for photo ops. Fauji se voh aik equation solve ho jaey tau barri baat hai.

Everybody is in the same boat. Nobody is saying politicians should be trusted either. The Army is not a holy cow.



He's definitely doing a great job.

Indian-backed proxies kill our people at will. There's something every week. What response is their in India? How many RAW officers have disappeared? How many tit-for-tat attacks have there been? How does Bajwa the dove plan to deter Doval?

Wake up.
The nuke program was always under the control of PA. Yes they used civilian Scientists, every country does. As the British found out with the IRA, the Spanish with ETA , the US with white extremists and gangs , India with Kashmiri freedom fighters and loads more examples around the world , it is not simple to deal with terrorism. If you think you can do better go and join PA or stop complaining and criticizing; instead of moaning lets hear good solutions and practical suggestions.
 

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