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    Up to 25,000 people granted domicile certificates raising fears of the beginning of demographic change in Kashmir.

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    Up to 25,000 people have been granted domicile certificates in Indian-administered Kashmir since May 18, raising fears of the beginning of demographic changes in the Muslim-majority Himalayan region.

    The certificate, a sort of citizenship right, entitles a person to residency and government jobs in the region, which till last year was reserved only for the local population.

    Last year on August 5, when India revoked the semi-autonomous status of the region, it also scrapped the local special citizenship law, guaranteed under Article 35 (A) of the Indian constitution. The move has drawn parallel with the occupied West Bank.

    On Friday, Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden said, "India should take all necessary steps to restore the rights of all the people of Kashmir."

    "Restrictions on dissent, such as peaceful protests or shutting or slowing down the internet weakens democracy," says a policy paper posted on his website.

    'Kashmir becoming another Palestine'
    "The decision to provide non-Kashmiri residents with a domicile certificate is certainly the beginning of the end. This is the beginning of Kashmir becoming another Palestine," Badar-Ul-Islam Sheikh, a 29-year-old resident of the main city of Srinagar, told Al Jazeera.

    "It is sad. It is horrible. I fear that time will come that we will not even feel safe in our homes," he said. "We have been silenced."

    According to a census conducted by India in 2011, out of 12.5 million total population, Muslims comprise 68.31 percent and Hindus 28.43 percent in Kashmir.

    Article 35 (A) had barred outsiders, including Indian nationals from other states, from settling and claiming government jobs to maintain the demographic balance in the region, which has seen decades of armed rebellion against the Indian rule.

    On Friday, a picture of the domicile certificate issued to Navin Kumar Choudhary, a bureaucrat originally from the Indian state of Bihar, went viral on social media.

    In April this year, amid the coronavirus lockdown, the government notified domicile laws making an unspecified number of outsiders eligible for residency and jobs.

    According to the new law, any person who has lived in the region for 15 years, or has studied in the region for seven years and passed his class 10 or class 12 examination is eligible for domicile certificate.

    Also, children of Indian government employees who have served in the state for 10 years are eligible to settle and claim local residency rights. The law applies even if the children have never lived in Kashmir.

    Out of 66, top bureaucrats serving in the region, 38 are outsiders belonging to other Indian states. Many other outsiders serve in various central government institutions like banks, post offices telecommunication facilities, security institutions, and universities.

    'Disastrous' for the region
    Khurram Parvez, a human rights activist based in Srinagar, said the move was "disastrous' for the whole region.

    "It appears government is in some kind of hurry. Within weeks so many people applied," he told Al Jazeera.

    Kashmiri politicians across the divide have said the revocation of special citizenship rights was aimed at reversing the Muslim majority character of the region, which is now directly ruled from New Delhi.

    The local legislature, which was directly elected by the people, was suspended in the wake of the scrapping of Article 370 last year.

    "All our misgivings about the new domicile rules in J&K are coming to the fore," tweeted Omar Abdullah, the former chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir, which was earlier a state and now a federally administered region.

    Omar was jailed following the removal of the region's autonomy in August last year along with most prominent Kashmiri leaders who opposed the stripping of the region's special status by the Hindu nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. He was released almost eight months later, in March.

    "We in @JKNC_ [Jammu and Kasmir National Conference] opposed the changes because we could see the nefarious design behind the changes. The people of J&K on both sides of the Pir Panjal mountains will be the sufferers of these domicile rules," he tweeted on Friday.

    But the Indian government says the move to change the status of Kashmir was done to integrate the Muslim-majority region with the rest of the country in order to bring development.

    Speaking to Anadolu Agency on the condition of anonymity, a government official said, since May 18, when the rules were notified, 33,000 people had applied for the domicile certificates. Out of them, 25,000 people have been granted residency rights, he said.

    Most certificates issued in Jammu region
    As many as 32,000 applications were filed in 10 districts of the Hindu majority Jammu region in the south. The highest number of 8,500 certificates has been issued in the Doda district, which has a delicate demographic balance, with Muslims comprising 53.81 percent and Hindus 45.76 percent.

    Up to 6,213 domicile certificates have been issued in Rajouri district, which has 62.71 percent Muslim population. Authorities have distributed 6,123 residency certificates in Poonch, a border district comprising 90.44 percent Muslim population.

    In the Kashmir region, which is about 96.4 percent Muslim population, 435 certificates have been issued so far, out of the total 720 applications.

    As of now, it is not clear how many outsiders, like Choudhary, have been issued domicile certificates. The 25,000 new citizens also include Hindu refugees, who had settled in the region at the time of partition of the sub-continent in 1947. They had migrated from territories, now part of Pakistan. But due to Kashmir's residency laws and special status they were not granted local residency rights.

    Parvez, the human rights activist, said the local government, which takes orders from New Delhi, has threatened to penalise officials Rs 50,000 ($660) if a domicile certificate is not issued within stipulated 14 days, adding that it would be difficult to verify the claims of applicants within such a short period.

    "If you compare it with northeastern state of Assam, [where the ruling Bharatiya Janata party] BJP [government] wants every application to be scrutinised by officers," Parvez told Al Jazeera, referring to the state where nearly two million people were left out of a 2019 citizenship list.

    "[In Assam] people also had the right to object to anyone's application. But here neither officers nor anyone else has a right to object to domicile right," he said.

    "The government has already warned those who oppose will have to go to the jail." Parvez said people were not in support of the law but cannot oppose "under the pressure of gun and state violence".

    "It will only complicate conflict and make things ugly," he said.

    Kashmir is held by India and Pakistan in parts and claimed by both in full. A small sliver of Kashmir, called Aksai Chin, is also held by China.

    Currently, India and China are engaged in a deadly border standoff since the beginning of May. On June 15, 20 Indian soldiers were killed in border fights, creating the worst tensions between Beijing and New Delhi in nearly 50 years.

    Since they were partitioned in 1947, New Delhi and Islamabad have fought three wars - in 1947, 1965, and 1971. Two of them have been over Kashmir.

    Kashmiri rebel groups have been fighting for independence or unification with neighbouring Pakistan. They enjoy broad-based popularity in the Kashmir valley.

    According to several human rights organisations, thousands of people have been killed since 1989, when India sent tens of thousands of troops to the region to quell the armed rebellion.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...hift-thousands-residency-200627103940283.html

    We have a pressing matter at hand in Kashmir, right at the moment. India following in Israel's footstep, changing the demographic in IoK.

    Moderators, this is a strategic issue for Pakistan, this news should be in this section of the forum.
     
  2. crankthatskunk

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    We are here arguing that the supplies to Siachen goes through Kargil and not DBO.
    Those who are pointing to it, are forgetting that Kargil to Leh Road, extend now to DBO. The Indians have constructed this road for two purposes, to send supplies as close to Siachen as possible for air drops. Secondly also to take a road right up to the Karakoram Pass.

    Chinese are giving us a huge favour to come as close as possible to Leh/DBO road. The forward movement by the Chinese in Despang area indicates their plans.

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    Looking at the map, Near Despang the Aksai Chin boundary is closest to the DBO road, than any other part of Aksai Chin. Therefore, China's step to move forward their positions in Despang makes sense and shows that they are positioning themselves to able to block this road whenever they want.

    The point I am trying to establish is that China is doing what they can to protest our CPEC route to China through Khunjrab Pass. By cutting Indians supplies to Siachen and to be able to make DBO airport unusable by Indians.

    People keep bringing the point that Siachen route is through Kargil. This is wrong. There is no route to Siachen via Kargil. That route goes to Leh. From Leh the Indians have build DBO road.

    India now can be squeezed from both ends if Pakistani army had planning in tune with the Chinese. To block Siachen supplies and isolate Indian soldiers in Siachen, Pakistan and Chinese have to block both Road and Air corridors for India to use. That's what Chinese are doing precisely. By strengthening their positions at 5390 point the highest point in Despang area in Aksai Chin, they are able to attack DBO airport , some 50 km away through their artillery and deny Indians to operate the supplies to Siachen from there. In short, Chinese have two prong strategy, first to have capacity to block the road and to block the airport.
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    That would leave India to use air Corridor from Either Leh or from Srinagar. When the War start in earnest, Indians wouldn't have that much freedom in the air to supply their troops in Siachen. We may see this scenario playing down in the coming winter.

    I have never said that the strengthening at post 5390 or Despang area in general is in the Indian's side of LAC.

    Furthermore, If Indians were thinking/planning to make a move on Gilgit Balitistan, Chinese are preempting Indians moves. They are cutting road supply in the area. The air corridor from Valley to anyway near Khunjrab would be very very difficult to use for Indians, after they are denied use of DBO airport. PAF and PLAF would see to that.

    That's leave us with the grave question about the valley. What Pakistan is going to do!!
    Is it going to allow Indians to change the demography of J & K and then held the plebiscite!!

    Or Pakistanis are going to do something about it now!!
    That's where we have to see the often talk about "Bajwa Doctrine" in motion on the ground.
    Timing is the essence.

    Indians played the trick to separate the Ladakh administratively from rest of Kashmir for the reasons explained above. Chinese have called their bluff and have now started to secure Ladakh. They are positioning themselves to take over whole of Ladakh or at least deny Indians easy access to most part of it. They are also planning to help Pakistan to be able to rest Siachen away from India.

    What are we going to do for the Valley!!
    What Pakistanis are planning in this regard!!
    Time is the essence.
     
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    Well it's in our hands to not let Kashmir become the next Palestine. I hope and believe our establishment is matured now and whatever decision they will make would be beneficial both for Pakistan and Kashmir.
     
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    Please initiate something. We cant wait for Pakistan to join in
     
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    This should not be allowed to happen. It will literally mean the end of the Kashmiri race and people!

    It's is genocide by the Hindus!
     
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    India will change demographics and then do a sham plebiscite. Pakistan can either just cry and whine on twitter and UN or it can use force. What do we have such a large and powerful army for? Wats use of army and such huge defence budget if we cant take Kashmir. If army cant then allow volunteers to take Kashmir. I am damn sure our volunteers will be able to take Kashmir in a couple of years fight.
     
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    Not to troll - India + pak will NEVER conduct plebscite.....I think volunteers are coming into Kashmiri from 1989?

    Forceful re-drawing of maps is not possible.

    Kashmir race + Kashmiris will prosper.....they will have modern businesses, universities......they will prosper for a million years......

    No genocide will ever happen.....

    Kashmiris are as much indian as anyone else.....
     
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    BS...my wife from Jammu Kashmir.

    Let the Kashmiris speak for Kashmir. They are not Hindutva Indians. They hate the occupying Indians and want FREEDOM!
     
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    Simple solution
    Kill every bharti who try to settle down in IOK after he/she gets a domicile. That would be a right thing to do because he/she would be a Invader. Fund arm and support mujhaideen, freedom fighters for this job.
    Strike fear in the hearts of indiots ,let them think thrice before the try to settle down in IOK. If they want to stay safe and alive then they must not step into kashmiri territory.

    Oh come on indiot now these days you should realize this funny Indian narrative is not working or never going to work. You tried to solve this issue by force and see how things are getting bad for you.
    Kashmiris will only prosper after the UN supervised plebiscite , whether they want to stay with pakistan, independent or with India (definitely not) .
    Hitler talked the same kind of prosperity bull$hit when he invaded the Soviet Union that he is going to free Russians from the clutches of communism. Well the rest is history. Berlin became the whore house of Russian soldiers and all their arrogance was shattered and the humiliation they faced was unbelievable.
    I would not be surprised if New Delhi becomes a next whore house for Chinese and Pakistani soldiers.
     
  10. crankthatskunk

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    How we are going to do that!!
    Indians had been establishing their point of view "that Pakistan supporting terrorists infiltration in India".
    Our PM in the past Mr Sharif had been their inside man in Pakistan, the traitor never worked against Indian narrative, never said a word against India. Forget about Pakistani narrative that they are freedom fighters, fighting against illegal occupation by the Indians, he didn't even utter a word against Kulbashan.

    When you have traitors and damn cowards running in your own ranks, how you can nullify Indian's agendas and their narratives!!