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Most of the aversion to the metro here is because the shariffs initiated it. Totally illogical. Shariffs have executed excellent motor ways, metro buses and now metro train.
Even the badly studied cpec was started by shariff. This is not good simply because it should have been a private investment by the Chinese rather than a sovereign guarantee by the Pakistanis. Let the Chinese take the risk.
Remove the above and what does Pakistan have in the name of infrastructure ?
 

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haha no, metros are a convenience. If you build a metro in the city, people would prefer to travel on that rather than getting stuck in traffic. Metros are preferred in busy cities, if Lahore is a very busy city, then MRT systems will reduce fuel usage as well as save time. Not to forget, there are hardly any metros that run on profit. It's more of a saving that you can get through other means like environment or fuel savings. Nothing to do with being called a developed nation.
Was reading only 2% population of the Hyderabad, India was using the Metro there....in Mumbai it is now only 11.5 kms long, more are planned but slow in implementation.
I agree with earlier comment of @Enigma SIG that walkways and pedestrian zones should have taken the lead...metro could have waited. And public buses in large numbers would have been many times more beneficial than this mammoth 250 billion rupee project. If a robust public bus system was incorporated, it would have been great...but that doesn't gives the optics and grandiosness, which people falls for...
Most of the aversion to the metro here is because the shariffs initiated it. Totally illogical. Shariffs have executed excellent motor ways, metro buses and now metro train.
Even the badly studied cpec was started by shariff. This is not good simply because it should have been a private investment by the Chinese rather than a sovereign guarantee by the Pakistanis. Let the Chinese take the risk.
Remove the above and what does Pakistan have in the name of infrastructure ?
Right...khata hai tau kia lagata bhi hai....
 

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Was reading only 2% population of the Hyderabad, India was using the Metro there....in Mumbai it is now only 11.5 kms long, more are planned but slow in implementation.
I agree with earlier comment of @Enigma SIG that walkways and pedestrian zones should have taken the lead...metro could have waited. And public buses in large numbers would have been many times more beneficial than this mammoth 250 billion rupee project. If a robust public bus system was incorporated, it would have been great...but that doesn't gives the optics and grandiosness, which people falls for...
It's not about what percentage of people use the metro but how many use it. Most importantly, fuel consumption is on the rise everywhere without metros, it'll exasperate the situation. Mumbai metro is already an addition to the Mumbai suburban rails which already run like a mini metro.
Let daily average ridership comes out and only then we can find if it is beneficial. Not now, but maybe after 3-5 years of operation. No infrastructure construction is a waste for developing countries. A lot of business will grow around it.
 

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Orange Line Metro Train Project Consumed The Entire Budget Of Punjab Transport?
By Rana Asim Last updated June 17, 2021 2




PML-N government's gift of Orange Line Metro train to the people of Lahore is proving to be a heavy burden on the pockets of the provincial government this year as well. 92% of the budget allocated for transport projects will be spent on one train only.

According to the budget document, the Punjab government has allocated a budget of Rs 16.80 billion for the Punjab Transport Department in the next financial year.



Out of this Rs 16.8 billion, Rs 15.59 billion will be spent on the Orange Line Metro train project alone.
In other words, only Rs 1.20 billion can be spent for all other transport projects in Punjab province and Rs 15.77 billion will be spent directly on the Orange Line Metro train project only.
According to the budget documents, Rs 278 million will be spent on support services for the Orange Line Metro Train project and Rs 31.25 million on Package Two.
Package III of the Orange Line Metro Train Project will cost Rs. 31.25 million and Package 4 will also cost Rs. 31.25 million

 

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Orange Line Metro Train Project Consumed The Entire Budget Of Punjab Transport?
By Rana Asim Last updated June 17, 2021 2




PML-N government's gift of Orange Line Metro train to the people of Lahore is proving to be a heavy burden on the pockets of the provincial government this year as well. 92% of the budget allocated for transport projects will be spent on one train only.

According to the budget document, the Punjab government has allocated a budget of Rs 16.80 billion for the Punjab Transport Department in the next financial year.



Out of this Rs 16.8 billion, Rs 15.59 billion will be spent on the Orange Line Metro train project alone.
In other words, only Rs 1.20 billion can be spent for all other transport projects in Punjab province and Rs 15.77 billion will be spent directly on the Orange Line Metro train project only.
According to the budget documents, Rs 278 million will be spent on support services for the Orange Line Metro Train project and Rs 31.25 million on Package Two.
Package III of the Orange Line Metro Train Project will cost Rs. 31.25 million and Package 4 will also cost Rs. 31.25 million

lahoris must be proud of it
 

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In the UK we don't have metro projects for buses. We Paint bus lanes on the roads, so buses have a dedicated lane available to them all the time in the busy parts of the city. No other traffic can go in that lane, they are monitored by cameras which will send a fine to your home if you go into these lanes. Some of them don't even have the cameras, people have common decency and abide the law, even if it is a ridiculous one.

I have previously proposed traffic lit bus lanes. All buses could have trackers on them, when they are approaching a bus lane the signal turns to red and normal traffic cannot use the lane. When the bus is clear, the traffic can continue to use the lane as the signal is green. Or even easier just prohibit traffic from using the bus lane during peak times.

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In the UK we don't have metro projects for buses. We Paint bus lanes on the roads, so buses have a dedicated lane available to them all the time in the busy parts of the city. No other traffic can go in that lane, they are monitored by cameras which will send a fine to your home if you go into these lanes. Some of them don't even have the cameras, people have common decency and abide the law, even if it is a ridiculous one.

I have previously proposed traffic lit bus lanes. All buses could have trackers on them, when they are approaching a bus lane the signal turns to red and normal traffic cannot use the lane. When the bus is clear, the traffic can continue to use the lane as the signal is green. Or even easier just prohibit traffic from using the bus lane during peak times.

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Pakistani aisa koi rule follow nahen karte aur na karenge.
 

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Pakistani aisa koi rule follow nahen karte aur na karenge.
This is part of the problem. I suspect maybe 1 in 10, or 1 in 100 would obey this sort of rule in Pakistan without threat of a danda.

That is what we need to change. You can't blame that on government or culture, that is within the control of the individual.
 

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This is part of the problem. I suspect maybe 1 in 10, or 1 in 100 would obey this sort of rule in Pakistan without threat of a danda.

That is what we need to change. You can't blame that on government or culture, that is within the control of the individual.
Unless HEAVY and i mean heavy fines are not imposed, no body is going to tow in line.
I remember my time in KSA. You cross one red signal, you were fined 500 riyals (£95) . Two times you cross, 1500 (£290) riyals fine and spend a day in jail. 3rd time your license in cancelled and (£580) fine.

they have increased it now.
 

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