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Kyrgyzstan high on 'Chinese fever'

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  1. beijingwalker

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    Kyrgyzstan high on 'Chinese fever'
     
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    I'm very surprised that the Kyrgyz people look exactly same as Han Chinese, they can perfectly blend in anywhere in China, other central Asians look more or less different can be spotted right away.
     
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    or may be Han CHinese look like eastern Turkish people because controlled you just 2-3 hundred years ago?
     
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    Who controlled who? Turks were always being controlled by China, those who didn't like being controlled by China were kicked out and fled to today's Turkey.
     
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    Have you ever open a history book? do you even know the reason why you have huge wall, as its touristic place today?
    Turks came because of the brutality of Mongols, which had 60-70% turkish soldiers in it and proven by history books. WHich will eventually loose against todays Turkey ;)
     
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    Do you have a history book? Turks study their ancestral history from Chinese history books, Great wall has a history of over 2000 years, how long have Turks been around in the human history? The funnist thing in the world is that Turks believe that China built wall for Turks, biggest joke in the world.
     
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    simply search in wikipedia tells me different thing, and Gokturk is the empire that lives in every history book
    The Northern Wei collapsed in 535 due to civil insurrection to be eventually succeeded by the Northern Qi (550–575) and Northern Zhou (557–580). Faced with the threat of the Göktürks from the north, from 552 to 556 the Qi built up to 3,000 li (about 1,600 kilometres (990 mi)) of wall from Shanxi to the sea at Shanhai Pass.[76] Over the course of the year 555 alone, 1.8 million men were mobilized to build the Juyong Pass and extend its wall by 450 kilometres (280 mi) through Datong to the eastern banks of the Yellow River.[77] In 557 a secondary wall was built inside the main one.[72] These walls were built quickly from local earth and stones or formed by natural barriers. Two stretches of the stone-and-earth Qi wall still stand in Shanxi today, measuring 3.3 metres (11 ft) wide at their bases and 3.5 metres (11 ft) high on average.

    Soon after the establishment of the Tang dynasty, during the reign of Emperor Taizong (r. 626–649), the threat of Göktürk tribesmen from the north prompted some court officials to suggest drafting corvéelabourers to repair the aging Great Wall. Taizong scoffed at the suggestion, alluding to the Sui walls built in vain: "The Emperor Yang of Sui made the people labor to construct the Great Wall in order to defend against the Turks
     
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    So you think the Great Wall was built in Tang dynasty? Go and educate yourself on this. And as I mentioned, you early history was written in Chinese, if you like to know your history, go and learn Chinese.
     
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    Turkish in Turkey or Azerbaijan are definitely not really Turks. You are basically European (Greek, Anatolian, Armenian, Circassian, Bulgarian, Hungarian etc.) who were and are being Turkified.

    Han Chinese has interacted with Turks for thousands years. Even Zhou dynasty was believed to come from a Turkic tribe who originated from Tibet (according to "History of China", 1982 by Nguyen Hien Le). But these people was not related to Turkish in Turkey.

    It is like a black American (of course with some white mix) proudly claim history of England as its own, just because he speaks English.
     
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    The Turks and the Turks have little to do with each other. They are mainly local residents of Asia Minor and Greece. The composition is no different from that of the Greeks. It is the Greeks who believe in Islam and speak Turkic language. It can be considered as a descendant of the Roman Empire (Eastern Empire).