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What is the PAF current inventory of K-8s and K-8Ps?
Wikipedia without quoting the source reveals that PAF possess 92 K-8s and K-8Ps and with a note that 32 K-8Ps were delivered in 2020.
According to SIPRI data base 12 K-8s and 27 K-8Ps were delivered to PAF.

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Why PAF is inducting so many K-8Ps?
Wikipedia is wrong
 

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Than SIPRI Arms Transfer Data is correct.
PAF is currently holding 12 K-8s and 26 K-8Ps (one crashed due to bird hit).

By the way, SIPRI data does show transaction of K-8 engines (TFE731-2A) supplied by US firm Honeywell.
SIPRI data for China shows that US delivered 6 engines only.
 

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When PAF will be acquiring new trainers from Italy as the Leonardo company already has opened its office in Pakistan. This means they will going to develop an aircraft maintenance facility of aircraft and UAVs locally.

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I'm sure it will going to give a big boost to PAF CCS.
 

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Than SIPRI Arms Transfer Data is correct.
PAF is currently holding 12 K-8s and 26 K-8Ps (one crashed due to bird hit).
Isn't there a K-8 preserved in 'celebrity row' inside PAC Kamra, southern part of the complex?
 

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Than SIPRI Arms Transfer Data is correct.
PAF is currently holding 12 K-8s and 26 K-8Ps (one crashed due to bird hit).

By the way, SIPRI data does show transaction of K-8 engines (TFE731-2A) supplied by US firm Honeywell.
SIPRI data for China shows that US delivered 6 engines only.
The number is higher
 

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When PAF will be acquiring new trainers from Italy as the Leonardo company already has opened its office in Pakistan. This means they will going to develop an aircraft maintenance facility of aircraft and UAVs locally.

  • 50 M-345
  • 50 M-346
I'm sure it will going to give a big boost to PAF CCS.
not happening for now. be careful... wdf may put it as a 'breaking news'. :)
 

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The number is higher
6 K-8s with Allied Signal TFE731-2A turbofan engine were received in 1994, 6 more K-8s were received in 2003.

27 K-8Ps were received in 2010 and another 12 in 2011.

In short a total of 51 K-8s and K-8Ps were received. However, the same source states that PAF hold 60 K-8s and K-8Ps.

Source: http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html

Where as Wikipedia states that their are 92 K-8s and K-8Ps, interestingly 32 were delivered in 2020.

According to SIPRI arms transfer database, 12 K-8s and 27 K-8Ps were delivered to PAF.

Therefore K-8 and K-8Ps strength in PAF is in between 38 to 92.

If K-8s and K-8Ps strength is 92, then it means that either PAF is grounding all T-37 fleet or number of K-8Ps are assigned somewhere else.
 

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PAF operates 60 k8 all variants
I think PAF only have 39 K-8s as I have not seen picture of any aircraft with a serial number past 38. But who knows.
6 K-8s with Allied Signal TFE731-2A turbofan engine were received in 1994, 6 more K-8s were received in 2003.

27 K-8Ps were received in 2010 and another 12 in 2011.

In short a total of 51 K-8s and K-8Ps were received. However, the same source states that PAF hold 60 K-8s and K-8Ps.

Source: http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html

Where as Wikipedia states that their are 92 K-8s and K-8Ps, interestingly 32 were delivered in 2020.

According to SIPRI arms transfer database, 12 K-8s and 27 K-8Ps were delivered to PAF.

Therefore K-8 and K-8Ps strength in PAF is in between 38 to 92.

If K-8s and K-8Ps strength is 92, then it means that either PAF is grounding all T-37 fleet or number of K-8Ps are assigned somewhere else.
6 in 1994, 6 in 2003, 8 in 2006, 8 in 2008 and finally 12 in 2010.
 

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6 K-8s with Allied Signal TFE731-2A turbofan engine were received in 1994, 6 more K-8s were received in 2003.

27 K-8Ps were received in 2010 and another 12 in 2011.

In short a total of 51 K-8s and K-8Ps were received. However, the same source states that PAF hold 60 K-8s and K-8Ps.

Source: http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html

Where as Wikipedia states that their are 92 K-8s and K-8Ps, interestingly 32 were delivered in 2020.

According to SIPRI arms transfer database, 12 K-8s and 27 K-8Ps were delivered to PAF.

Therefore K-8 and K-8Ps strength in PAF is in between 38 to 92.

If K-8s and K-8Ps strength is 92, then it means that either PAF is grounding all T-37 fleet or number of K-8Ps are assigned somewhere else.
K8Ps are mostly used for advanced jet training at Mianwali where it replaced the FT5s. In addition it is used for basic training along with T37s at Risalpur. K8s has a very broad performance envelope and can be used for anything from Basic to Advanced training. All K8 are being upgraded to K8P with glass cockpits.
 

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I think PAF only have 39 K-8s as I have not seen picture of any aircraft with a serial number past 38. But who knows.

6 in 1994, 6 in 2003, 8 in 2006, 8 in 2008 and finally 12 in 2010.
Indeed 39, but according to HAIC last delivery in 2010 was 11 aircraft handed over on 27 October 2010. And no, I do not have that news item anymore :-)
 

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Indeed 39, but according to HAIC last delivery in 2010 was 11 aircraft handed over on 27 October 2010. And no, I do not have that news item anymore :-)
You are right, 11 vs 12 in 2010. That's what I had but thought it was strange to have an odd number ordered. But we definitely don't have more than 40 as other sources are indicating
 

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