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PPP & JI Written agreement Disclosed


Many people are saying that PPP has bought time only - PTI/MQM are saying that Jamat Islami has been fooled by PPP

Though JI is saying that she will keep a check on PPP

Meanwhile PSP/Mustafa Kamal is starting their protests from today


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PPP & JI Written agreement Disclosed


Many people are saying that PPP has bought time only - PTI/MQM are saying that Jamat Islami has been fooled by PPP

Though JI is saying that she will keep a check on PPP

Meanwhile PSP/Mustafa Kamal is starting their protests from today


@Zibago @fitpOsitive @Meengla
See the thing is, it's in our blood, the people of South Asia. We don't pay attention to what people are saying, and in last, something very bloody happens. Just look at our history of the last 1200 years.
It's normal actually for me because I see the ground realities first. Let me tell you what is most likely here:
Sindhis at the moment are heavily relying on nationalists like PPP. But how are they achieving "goals"? By killing every possibility of betterment. Today's Sindhi has a job, but he simply has no direction. Urdu speakers will either leave the country or they become new Shoodars of society i.e nothing. Sindhis and their parties when will be done with destroying the progressive part of society, will think what's next? And then will come a part of the society that was unacceptable to the society till then: the Hindus of great dharti Sindh to "save" the great sons of the soil. And then sending Sindhis back to where they came from: villages. But hey, that was the starting point from where Sindhis started by supporting Pakistan in 1943, isn't it? :lol:

Hindus, Sikhs, and Muslims. Doesn't matter who rules this soil. It's in our blood, in the very core of our psyche. This cycle will be repeated again and again, till we change ourselves, the way we think, the way we treat others.
And this mentality is not particular with the people of Sindh, it's an overall disease in South Asia.
 
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See the thing is, it's in our blood, the people of South Asia. We don't pay attention to what people are saying, and in last, something very bloody happens. Just look at our history of the last 1200 years.
It's normal actually for me because I see the ground realities first. Let me tell you what is most likely here:
Sindhis at the moment are heavily relying on nationalists like PPP. But how are they achieving "goals"? By killing every possibility of betterment. Today's Sindhi has a job, but he simply has no direction. Urdu speakers will either leave the country or they become new Shoodars of society i.e nothing. Sindhis and their parties when will be done with destroying the progressive part of society, will think what's next? And then will come a part of the society that was unacceptable to the society till then: the Hindus of great dharti Sindh to "save" the great sons of the soil. And then sending Sindhis back to where they came from: villages. But hey, that was the starting point from where Sindhis started by supporting Pakistan in 1943, isn't it? :lol:

Hindus, Sikhs, and Muslims. Doesn't matter who rules this soil. It's in our blood, in the very core of our psyche. This cycle will be repeated again and again, till we change ourselves, the way we think, the way we treat others.
And this mentality is not particular with the people of Sindh, it's an overall disease in South Asia.

Don't be so disheartened :D

By the way, what a madlad he is - MK with his family - Respect !!!

 

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First blow against karachities was
Bhutto making quota for sindhis in karachi for job, taken away our rights

2nd blow was against karachties when 18th amendemnt bill was pass taken away karachi hope from federal taken away our rights.

Third blow is this Bill against karachities to make them slaves.
MQM signed the 18th amendment... traitors among us ..no one is to blame.

 

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Political Parties should be based on solving issues for all citizens of Pakistan
Not for 1 segment only and there lies the flaw in the current democratic structure of key parties in Pakistan
 

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MQM submits 18th Amendment Bill in NA

Published January 12, 2009




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ISLAMABAD The Muttahda Qaumi Movement (MQM) on Monday submitted an 18th Constitution Amendment Bill with the National Assembly Secretariat suggesting repeal of most of the amendments introduced in the constitution during former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf's days in power.​

Talking to reporters after submission of the bill, the Parliamentary Leader of MQM in the National Assembly Dr Farooq Sattar said the 'undemocratic clauses' in the 17th amendment would be repealed, while the clauses essential for the democratic system would be retained.​

He said the positive amendments which would not be touched include those pertaining to reserved seats for women, voters' age and joint electorate.​

Sattar said the time had come to end the centre based system. A strong centre cannot guarantee a strong Pakistan, but strong federating units can ensure it. He said the sense of deprivation prevailing among the provinces must be addressed. In the past, amendments had been introduced to serve the interests of individuals or some political parties, but the bill submitted by the MQM is aimed at empowering the people.​

He said the bill proposes the centre to have only three subjects including defence, foreign policy and currency and rest of the subjects should be transferred the provincial and district levels. He further said that the bill also provides real concept of independence of judiciary. He said the bill suggests appointment of judges through a Judicial Commission. The judicial commission should recommend three names and the final approval should be given by the parliament.​

Sattar said the bill was aimed at eliminating feudalism and adhoc-ism from the country. He said the battle for power between President and the Prime Minister has always remained an issue, which had in the past provided an opportunity to the Army to intervene. He said the powers of the President and the Prime Minister have been determined in the proposed bill and ownership has been given to the people.​

The MQM leader said the bill also proposes abolition of the concurrent list and establishment of an inter provincial executive committee in its place. He said constitutions of India and several European countries were studied during the process of shaping up the proposed bill.​

He said copies of the bill would be circulated to all the political parties and said that the MQM was ready to exchange views on the bills to be moved by other political parties. PML-N and PML-Q had so far not contacted the party.​

 

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Payshaap m sy Machlia pkr rhy hain sit ins and agitation prolly wont solve nothing, a constitional writ petition however in the s.c to reinstate the technically suspended part of it may do .
 

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They submitted it. It was done by ppp with help of pmln. Both agreed. Mqm wanted to have changes in 18th amendment.

MQM submits 18th Amendment Bill in NA

Published January 12, 2009




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ISLAMABAD The Muttahda Qaumi Movement (MQM) on Monday submitted an 18th Constitution Amendment Bill with the National Assembly Secretariat suggesting repeal of most of the amendments introduced in the constitution during former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf's days in power.​

Talking to reporters after submission of the bill, the Parliamentary Leader of MQM in the National Assembly Dr Farooq Sattar said the 'undemocratic clauses' in the 17th amendment would be repealed, while the clauses essential for the democratic system would be retained.​

He said the positive amendments which would not be touched include those pertaining to reserved seats for women, voters' age and joint electorate.​

Sattar said the time had come to end the centre based system. A strong centre cannot guarantee a strong Pakistan, but strong federating units can ensure it. He said the sense of deprivation prevailing among the provinces must be addressed. In the past, amendments had been introduced to serve the interests of individuals or some political parties, but the bill submitted by the MQM is aimed at empowering the people.​

He said the bill proposes the centre to have only three subjects including defence, foreign policy and currency and rest of the subjects should be transferred the provincial and district levels. He further said that the bill also provides real concept of independence of judiciary. He said the bill suggests appointment of judges through a Judicial Commission. The judicial commission should recommend three names and the final approval should be given by the parliament.​

Sattar said the bill was aimed at eliminating feudalism and adhoc-ism from the country. He said the battle for power between President and the Prime Minister has always remained an issue, which had in the past provided an opportunity to the Army to intervene. He said the powers of the President and the Prime Minister have been determined in the proposed bill and ownership has been given to the people.​

The MQM leader said the bill also proposes abolition of the concurrent list and establishment of an inter provincial executive committee in its place. He said constitutions of India and several European countries were studied during the process of shaping up the proposed bill.​

He said copies of the bill would be circulated to all the political parties and said that the MQM was ready to exchange views on the bills to be moved by other political parties. PML-N and PML-Q had so far not contacted the party.​



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President Asif Ali Zardari on Monday signed the landmark 18th Amendment Bill into law which strips him of key discretionary powers although he later asserted he did not believe himself powerless.
 
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