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Junior's Cafe

Discussion in 'Members Club' started by Salik, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. member.exe

    member.exe SENIOR MEMBER

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    I know meanings of some words in Latin. That does not make me a Roman
     
  2. The Eagle

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    Indeed..... my response was just a guess...my bad and I hope, you did not mind it... :-)
     
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  3. member.exe

    member.exe SENIOR MEMBER

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    Not at all:D:cheers:
     
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    :-):cheers:
     
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  5. Taygibay

    Taygibay PROFESSIONAL

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    Thanks but it only depends on the lower limit chosen by our brass, mate!
    BTW, how come you don't have a single positive? I thought the first one
    came almost automatically, as a result of full inscription or intro or something?
    I'll check on that.

    As for battle scars, that is ridiculous even though I'm afraid you are right on it.
    But then, someone with say 500 or 1000 posts without a negative could be in.
    It's a matter of tweaking my broad suggestion into something fair and workable!

    Have a great day, Tay.

    P.S. Maybe it's your tongue-in-cheek nick that has prevented you from getting pluses? :P
     
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  6. jamahir

    jamahir ELITE MEMBER

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    stain, nishaan. :D

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    and @Taygibay 's mentioning of @waz reminded me that i have foolishly not mentioned both tay and waz in my first post in the first page... sorry, tay... sorry, waz.
     
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  7. Moonlight

    Moonlight PDF THINK TANK: ANALYST

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    Agreed.
    I don't really like this idea of 'senior cafe'. Many members are sane than the some senior members and still can't utter their thoughts or share their information there. Because they got no title of SM.
     
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  8. Joe Shearer

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    This has the potential of becoming a full-scope debate about south Asia, warts and all. Just a match, a single flicker of fire at this time, but there is a lot of dry tinder lying around.

    There are several people - Linlithgow, for instance - who recorded their belief that Britain should stay on until the 1970s or longer. It is certain that in the 1920s, there was no question of any exit; that emerged very, very late in the day. If you are acquainted with the later history of any of the ICS, IP or British Indian Army officers who returned to Britain, look them up. Nobody who knew they were leaving would have landed up in such awkward predicaments as the vast majority of the British administrators did from 1947 onwards.

    Sure, they left other colonies. It was this monumental departure that set the tone. Having left India, why would they balk at Cyprus? Also, please look at the dates. Even after the Indian example had set the tone, the British took another decade or more to release other colonies.
     
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  9. Indika

    Indika SENIOR MEMBER

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    Can we get a seasonal/day pass to troll the seniors? :p:
     
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  10. Salik

    Salik FULL MEMBER

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    Plus Indian freedom struggle goes way back to 1757, from Puli Theval, Tipu Sultan, Bhagat Singh to Sir Syed Ahmed Khan. Not to ignore 1857 and political struggle afterwards. Obviously there was element of divide and rule, would the people ask for separate land if there were no Brits? We've been living together for centuries not for decades.

    Whatever plans the British had, Indians were building up towards freedom.

    @Atanz sir the idea of Pakistan was give by Dr. Allama Iqbal, he actually promoted the idea that fate was not a static thing. It changes hundred times in a moment:

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    Nishan Yehi Hai Zamane Mein Zinda Qoumon Ka
    Ke Subha-O-Sham Badalti Hain In Ki Taqdeerain

    "It is the sign of living nations their fate changes day and night"

    At one occasion he said 'Saare jahan se acha Hindustan hamara' and at other occasion he said they wanted a separated land. What would he say today.
     
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  11. Salik

    Salik FULL MEMBER

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    You've bigger role to play in united India. See:

    I. 200 million Pakistani Muslims + 200 million Indian Muslims = 400 million Muslims alone, then

    II. 30 million Sikh. You convince them and they're on your side.

    III. 20 million Bhudhs and Jains. Also offer them better attractions.

    This all happens in the center, almost 50% representation. Muslim majority states/provinces are intact. Its Indians still who are asking for united India. Is it not a great and win win offer?

    There was an initiative by respected @S.U.R.B. to give a positive to newbies after a sociable intro. It was good but didn't continue due to some glitches. Need to resume after tackling the issues whatever.
     
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  12. Pulsar

    Pulsar SENIOR MEMBER

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    The so called 'seniors cafe' is totally absurd. A relatively junior member may be much more knowledgeable and able to discuss issues far more analytically than many of the senior members who have become seniors solely due to their being on PDF for a longer period. This doesn't make sense. An illiterate troll would be able to post in the seniors cafe just because he's been on PDF for a longer period and promoted to 'General' by default, not due to his intellect and analytical acumen.

    Thus I feel that the 'Seniors Cafe' is pointless and needs to be done away with. To prevent trolling, this section could be better policed by the mods.

    My two bits.
     
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  13. Joe Shearer

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    In fact, it is irritating to contemplate the situation today. I could go into detail, but even this former safe haven is compromised; I don't feel like getting into one of those bare-knuckle battles that were commonplace even a few years ago.

    There is some meaning to this division, irrational though it may seem. It is among the new-comers that one sees the worst excesses, and in some cases, this abrasive quality is worn down by the passage of time.

    We do need a niche, a corner where we can discuss things without strident and shrill interruptions.
     
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  14. Salik

    Salik FULL MEMBER

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    Sir PDF is not the only forum to begin with. Lot of boards are here around and people have become mature posters. Now if a person happens to come to this forum he has to wait for the post count and bear the flawed right/wrong discussion. It is painful as well as illogical.

    Is the world changed or India has changed? What i know India is the same for thousands of years. Its the beauty of Sanathana Dharma to welcome everyone, ignore their drawbacks and accept their qualities. You can talk in detail but united India is the way.
     
  15. Levina

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    If somebody's serious about a discussion then it can done even on a chit-chat thread like "whatever".
    The senior's cafe serves many purposes
    1) Only limited ppl can access the thread, this keeps the suicide trolls at bay. Suicide troll IDs are created with the sole intention of trolling and, are mostly new ids. Mods usually give'em permanent bans
    2) This encourages the members to post more often on the forum,which ensures a steady flow of traffic to this site.
    There's some economics behind this decision..you see.
    Webby is a smart guy. lolzz
     
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