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Jinnah's vision

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  1. Green disc

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    Was Jinnah vision for Pakistan that we could not live with the Hindu's only, or was it for the other religions has well, and what would he say now with so many Pakistanis living in the western world and slowly losing their ways, has in making right has wrong and wrong has right.
     
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    Take a hot shower, drink some milk and go to sleep. Jinnah's vision is very much there. And won't be hatmed until there are those vigilantly guarding it day and night. From foreign and domestic threats.
     
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    chill dude, please read my post, I did not say Jinnah’s vision is not there, Jinnah’s vision is alive and kicking in Pakistan
    But is Jinnah’s vision alive and kicking with Pakistan’s living abroad
     
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    They also take up the nationalities of other countries so its likely some will follow their culture.
     
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    Pakistani living abroad in NA are mostly Karachiites. Who have slave mentality carrying over from gora rule. Some are patriotic and religious. Rest are anti national to varying degress some very openly, they are splintered and do not like to show their religion or nationality openly, actively believe in pleasing the gora just to get and keep a job.

    Punjabi community in NA is spread out and few in number. Are generally cohesive find like minded people, also because of language. So there is some unity there.

    In the UK however Punjabi(Mirpuri, Hazara, Hindko speakers, some central dialect speakers) are well in number and have cohesion and unity. Since they have been emigrating there since British rule. So they have stronger roots. But the 3rd generation UK population I agree has gone away from islam. With boys banging white girls and girls doing same. Pre marital sex and pregnancy among 3rd gen UK Pakistani muslims is on the rise. Which breaks parents' hearts.

    Here in USA 3rd generation has only generally started budding and kinda showing same tendencies as UK 3rd gen. Alcohol included.
     
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    Here in USA 3rd generation has only generally started budding and kinda showing same tendencies as UK 3rd gen. Alcohol included.[/QUOTE]

    Total agree, alcohol and drugs is a big concern with boys and girls
     
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    What about all the Pakistani child grooming gangs in the UK? Where do they come from?
     
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    They actually come from British far right.

     
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    USA paks have it easier economically Uk paks it is much harder for them to climb up due to racism etc. there is more alcoholics drugs banging in pak by youngsters who try to compare with Uk paks who find it weird because the stupid perception Pakistan born paks have of uk or uk paks.
     
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    Pakistani folks losing their way abroad?! Iv seen first hand Pakistani way in Pakistan. Everyone is individual. Keep your concern to yourself and improving yourself.
     
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    The idea was to give Muslims of the subcontinent their own identity and ability to govern. He knew that Muslims won't be able to represent themselves politically and will spend the rest of their life failing to prove their loyalty to a non Muslim state which will regard them as second class citizens.

    Pakistanis living abroad are not there to gain political representation. They already have all their freedoms, and are there as economic migrants or the richer people who want to live a more luxury life.

    But South Asia is our home. This is where we were to carve out our piece of land and we did.

    Abey chal, kuttay.

    Why is this Karachiite hating piece of shit not banned?

    @waz @Dubious

    What would you consider a Pakistani way?
    Can you define it? Religion doesn't represent us everywhere we go.

    I know many Pakistani people abroad, some who are still true to religion, and some who are into alcohol and pre marital sex. Essentially though, all of them are patriotic and proud to be Pakistani. Isn't that enough?

    We only know the Islamic way and that is not the Pakistani way, Pakistan is yet to form its own fulfilling cultural identity unfortunately.
     
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    To learn Jinnah vision you have to live in India..

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    You have more gora western wannabe paks in Pakistan than western born paks.
    They will compare themselves like I have two cars shogun pojero and land cruiser oh you have a Toyota Avensis haha you British pak have no life hahaha yai kya mulk hai. Then you must explain that you pay taxes, insurance, road tax, fuel tax, MOT etc over there.
     
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    Please dont generalize like that! There is no proper blanket generalization about anyone anything any group!
     
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    Ghaddar to tm Punjabi ho asal goro ke ghulam