• Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Jinnah's only daughter, Dina Wadia, passes away at 98

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  1. Joe Shearer

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    Oh shit. Which swine grassed on me?
     
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    Islam came with the first human being i.e. Prophet Adam who was also the first messenger from God to the human i.e. Adam & Eve and their children.
     
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    The first man and woman were Mashya and Mashyana.

    And they were Zoroastrian.

    The religion which showed the way to all Abrahamic faiths that came later.

    As messages to different peoples.

    When their minds and souls were ready. And their need dire.

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    Ok.

    God seems too confused to not come up with clear rule book in one go.
     
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    God is not but you are really confused. Which rule is not clear?

    I am talking about the religion and not pagan beliefs. Adam is the first human being according to Muslim, Christians and Jews..all agree on that and that makes majority of human beings.
     
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    Who you know as Adam is Mashya.

    Religion came to the Semites more than once.

    It is possible that one message was not enough?

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    Okay... I agree it is possible different civilisation and religions are referring to the same couple with different names.
    In Islam, the message has essentially remained the same i.e. there is only one God and He alone should be worshiped, if you read about Christianity and Judaism..this message is pretty much the same except Christian priests especially Peter altered the message later and messed it up with confusing in trinity 3-in-1 concept and still Christians say they believe in God - the Father and then he has son Jesus and Spirit (Angel Gabriel) so they made a mistake and made them divine while in Islam only Allah is the God and rest is his creation, He has no son or wife etc because He is totally unlike his creation and though we use the masculine terms to address Him, he has no gender.. and this concept is pretty much same in Judaism.

    The religion is actually one i.e. Islam that came with Prophet Adam ( the first human being) but later people changed it over time as they were misled by the devil, however Allah kept sending His guidance through messengers and according to an estimate 124,000 messengers in total came till the final messenger Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to fully cover the mankind though only a few have been mentioned in the Holy Quran by their names so it is pretty much possible that Zoroastrians were also the follower of some Prophet but later they digressed over time and went astray from the right path.
     
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    As I said, the Semites are (were) a conflicted lot.

    Three major faiths.

    All at war with one another.

    No end in sight to the conflict.

    The message had to be repeated.

    By successive messengers.

    Were the messages different?

    Were the people they were meant for and came from different?

    Were the times different?

    Was the message lost?

    Were the people lost?

    I do not know the answers to these.

    It is for the followers of these religions to work it out for themselves.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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    These questions are good questions but these are pieces of cake.. All you need is to start reading the translation of Quran and other scriptures (Bible) in your language. Though Bible is quite lengthy since a lot has been added into it by men so the original message has been lost in there but it is still there. However holy Quran is pretty concise and short.
     
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    إنّا لله و إنّا إليه راجعون

    Rest In Peace .........
     
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    She had a very close facial resemblance with MA jinnah.She carried too much history with her