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Will have to say, with the type of posts people have written.

As long as pakistan does not introspect and look inwards for the faults that caused bangladesh to split, it will forever be caught in the cycle of Failure->Blame India->Failure->Blame yahudi. These propaganda films wont change history, and will damage more than they benefit.
 

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Will have to say, with the type of posts people have written.

As long as pakistan does not introspect and look inwards for the faults that caused bangladesh to split, it will forever be caught in the cycle of Failure->Blame India->Failure->Blame yahudi. These propaganda films wont change history, and will damage more than they benefit.
You are having a tough time digesting that your propaganda is being pushed back with facts and good research. India and its rulers are dangerous for the region and the world and people are walking up to it. Argue the facts and not keep driving your age old propaganda. Just wait till this documentary comes out. It will shatter people's way of thinking about 1971. For far too long Pakistan has stayed quiet, sheepish and dumb. It allowed India and her cronies to paint a completely false narrative, just because they had empty space. And India as we know is a master at poisoning people - Sikhs against Muslims, Tamil against Sinahlese, Balouchis against the State, Afghans against Pakistan, Hindus against Muslims, Caste against Caste, and hate against China and Chinese. Everywhere you look you'll see their handiwork. People of the region and world need to wake up and stop seeing India like a half clad Ghandi eating veges. India is nothing like that. It is a mob, managed and run to the tunes of the Caste leader Brahmins. And everyone else suffers.
 

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You are having a tough time digesting that your propaganda is being pushed back with facts and good research. India and its rulers are dangerous for the region and the world and people are walking up to it. Argue the facts and not keep driving your age old propaganda. Just wait till this documentary comes out. It will shatter people's way of thinking about 1971. For far too long Pakistan has stayed quiet, sheepish and dumb. It allowed India and her cronies to paint a completely false narrative, just because they had empty space. And India as we know is a master at poisoning people - Sikhs against Muslims, Tamil against Sinahlese, Balouchis against the State, Afghans against Pakistan, Hindus against Muslims, Caste against Caste, and hate against China and Chinese. Everywhere you look you'll see their handiwork. People of the region and world need to wake up and stop seeing India like a half clad Ghandi eating veges. India is nothing like that. It is a mob, managed and run to the tunes of the Caste leader Brahmins. And everyone else suffers.
This is precisely the type of attitude that lost you bengal. No problem with me, the longer you keep this mentality the more my country benefits.
 

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This is precisely the type of attitude that lost you bengal. No problem with me, the longer you keep this mentality the more my country benefits.
Easy of you to say that. Either through willful deceit or complete ignorance. But you are not fooling anyone here.

When we see your state institutions funding Afghan groups, aligning strategy caught on comms, your overt vocalization and policy. Are we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions funding Balouchi groups, aligning strategy caught on comms, your overt vocalization and policy. Are we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions funding MQM groups (through multiple conduits), aligning strategy caught on comms, your overt vocalization and policy. Are we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions working with KHAD and causing havoc in our land in the 80s, were we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions funding Jeay Sindh and Al Zulfiqar groups in the 70s and 80s, aligning strategy caught on comms, your overt vocalization and policy. Are we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions funding attacking our sovereign country East Pakistan and bringing us a war where there was no political and military reason - were we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions at every step of the way from Cricket (through ICCI/BCCI) hurting us, from Davis cup matches, to Kabbadi, to art and actors, every forum, every issue you bring in your hatred of Pakistan. Are we dreaming?
When we see your state institutions shutting our water through illegal dams, aligning strategy and squeezing us dry, plus your overt vocalization and policy. Are we dreaming?

It is you who is dreaming that you don't do this to us. Like I have said before there is a mental pathology in the Indian mind. It is scary.

Not one of the above is a fancied or dream scenario. It is established (we have the facts and evidence) and even your people openly acknowledge they did it. So quit with your bullsh*t of purity. You have been an enemy of Pakistan from day one and your are not ready to change your ways. For Pakistan we have no option but to struggle for our survival. And the seeds you have sown will reap in due course. Even KARMA which I think you guys believe in will bring to you what you are owned one day.
 

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All these accounts of the massacre of Pakistanis especially after 16 December are true.
My parents told me horrifying stories of entire villages of non-Bengalis being wiped out.
How they narrowly escaped and took refuge in multiple hideouts as well as finding all possible means to reach Pakistan. Alhamdulilah my parent's family managed to do that but others were not that fortunate enough. They were either killed or stuck in refugee camps.
May ALLAH SWT reward all shahudas with the highest reward in Jannah.
 

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You are having a tough time digesting that your propaganda is being pushed back with facts and good research. India and its rulers are dangerous for the region and the world and people are walking up to it. Argue the facts and not keep driving your age old propaganda. Just wait till this documentary comes out. It will shatter people's way of thinking about 1971. For far too long Pakistan has stayed quiet, sheepish and dumb. It allowed India and her cronies to paint a completely false narrative, just because they had empty space. And India as we know is a master at poisoning people - Sikhs against Muslims, Tamil against Sinahlese, Balouchis against the State, Afghans against Pakistan, Hindus against Muslims, Caste against Caste, and hate against China and Chinese. Everywhere you look you'll see their handiwork. People of the region and world need to wake up and stop seeing India like a half clad Ghandi eating veges. India is nothing like that. It is a mob, managed and run to the tunes of the Caste leader Brahmins. And everyone else suffers.
IMHO I am in agreement with Dr. MAM Choudhury - pakistan should of gone on the defensive in relation to 1971 strait after the dust had settled following creation of BD. Based on what I've read BD govt was close to doing its own grass roots investigation of the events of 1971 under the BNP government but they (BNP) grossly underestimated the awami league's collusion with BD deep state and indian RAW/armed forces.

The awami league propaganda machine is absolutely relentless and in all honesty they have most likely reached their objectives brainwashing young BD people against pakistan.........its almost as if they are setting up the BD people for something........especially considering you are doomed to repeat history if you dont learn from it.
 

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IMHO I am in agreement with Dr. MAM Choudhury - pakistan should of gone on the defensive in relation to 1971 strait after the dust had settled following creation of BD. Based on what I've read BD govt was close to doing its own grass roots investigation of the events of 1971 under the BNP government but they (BNP) grossly underestimated the awami league's collusion with BD deep state and indian RAW/armed forces.

The awami league propaganda machine is absolutely relentless and in all honesty they have most likely reached their objectives brainwashing young BD people against pakistan.........its almost as if they are setting up the BD people for something........especially considering you are doomed to repeat history if you dont learn from it.
the propaganda was necessary to fill the minds of Bengalis with hatred, as without that hatred, there was no real reason for the rebellion and seeking a hindu alliance, they could have gained an autonomous status. To create the identity of Bangladesh it was necessary to paint Pakistanis as evil genocidal monsters, especially after the atrocities that Mujeeb himself visited upon his people post-71 i.e., the economic degradation, violation of civil liberties and autocratic tendencies. He did so bad that the people who had fought alongside him had to kill him. Now, if Bangabandhu is seen as a villain, it will wash away one of the major reasons of rebellion and civil war.
 

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the propaganda was necessary to fill the minds of Bengalis with hatred, as without that hatred, there was no real reason for the rebellion and seeking a hindu alliance, they could have gained an autonomous status. To create the identity of Bangladesh it was necessary to paint Pakistanis as evil genocidal monsters, especially after the atrocities that Mujeeb himself visited upon his people post-71 i.e., the economic degradation, violation of civil liberties and autocratic tendencies. He did so bad that the people who had fought alongside him had to kill him. Now, if Bangabandhu is seen as a villain, it will wash away one of the major reasons of rebellion and civil war.

TBH, Its just the same old tired old recipe. Nation A has a group of people who think they are disenfranchised. Enemy of Nation A (lets call them nation B) capitalises on disenfranchised group to prop up non state actors. Nation A's security forces response to non state actors is labelled as crimes against humanity et al and strengthens resolve of disenfranchised group. Nation B justifies military aggression against nation A on basis of humanitarian reasons. Disenfranchised group of nation A declares itself an independent state facilitated by Nation B in order to displace nation A in partnership with nation B and its non state actors.

And should these non state actors succeed they interestingly end up betraying each other, fragment and end up forming factions leading the new nation into complete disarray. Proving that treachery only begets treachery and also the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.

Same old recipe rinsed and repeated for decades but no one seems to clock. Happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen. And its happening NOW in Myanmar with many parallels to EP back in 1971 - see these videos by atlas news:



 
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