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JF-17 vs Rafale: Why Pakistani JF-17 Thunder Poses A Serious Threat To Indian Rafale Fighter Jets?

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no war is needed. india is already falling apart. but then again, precisely because of the fact that india is falling apart, they may just drag the entire neighborhood down along with them.

hum tau doobain gay, tumhay bhi lay doobain gay sanam...as they say.
Be real, man! Do not watch too much news (Pakistan) and listen to so called experts. Thanks
 

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no war is needed. india is already falling apart. but then again, precisely because of the fact that india is falling apart, they may just drag the entire neighborhood down along with them.

hum tau doobain gay, tumhay bhi lay doobain gay sanam...as they say.
keep dreaming beta .it is better for you .
 

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isn't the mighty supreme techlologically advanced teja getting more of a push to sell to customers abroad then its receiving any attention in its own nation? by force its being introduced into your vayu sena.

okay the yanks created F20 tiger shark for export but not for their own consumption. what will you say about that concept? since you sit in yankiville! F5 is another example that someone gave earlier.

just being pathetic for the sake of being pathetic.
F20 AKA F-5G was a total of 3 prototypes made by Northrop. Northrop had hopes that the US would buy them and they could also make an international variant of the same platform. The Chinese, so far, have shown no interest in adding any variant of JF-17 platform, including BlockIII :meeting:
Who says fighting will continue more than a week. Probably by that time, Nukes will come into the play. Pakistan is conventionally inferior against India. So, we shall use them if necessary, but then, it would mean we are at the brink of being defeated and out of any other options (surrender is not on table).
Do you think India is interested in capturing all of Pakistan or just portions? If it is simply a portion, would you use a nuclear weapon and guarantee that all of Pakistan also gets nuked in a retaliatory strike? I think you can defend a small portion with your conventional forces. The question is what crosses the threshold?
 
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There are a lot of observers in Pakistan who have been claiming for decades that India is about to fall apart. Whom have they been able to convince? Their own population.
They are the only people who have taken a full dive, buried their heads in sand and hoping for last few decades for their dream to come true. 😜😜

OIC, Middle East, Most fo the world powers know where India is headed. No reason they want to be on the same bus as India.

LCA is coming up. IAF Chief has made it clear about its capability vis a vis some of the adversaries mainly various versions of JF.

And comparing it with Rafale? Yes it would pose a very serious threat in a similar way as India is about to disintegrate.
 

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When china refuses to induct and use any version of JF-17, considering how deadly and potent you think this platform is, does that make you wonder why? Alternatively, can you name a single frontline aircraft we or any NATO partner exports that we/they don't use themselves?
When you have a proof and documented evidence that why China would have refused Thunder for PLAAF, come back and tag me. It's ironical that one who doesn't even know the details, is here to claim as such. First learn and search about it by avoiding Indian Media and update yourself so you wouldn't be trolling and getting pink like this.
 

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you introduced a few SU 35s, so you were happy to add multiple different kinds of engines to your ecosystem with no issue. Besides Jf-17 has over 300 in service- and you have created an ecosystem for other countries in China.

The claims made of this aircraft are lofty here, surely such a lofty aircraft would be needed in your arsenal?
Lol.. pls brush up your knowledge. Su-35 AL-41 engine share the same lineage of AL-31F uses by PLAAF for our Su-30MKK. The logistics is not that difficult.

While RD-93 engine used by MIg-29 , JF-17 are totally different line of engine compare to AL-31/41 class of engine.
 

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JF-17 meets Pakistani requirements pretty well. China is a vast country which forces her into producing flanker versions in order to cover its vast geography. Does it mean that JF-17 is techonologically inferior to flanker versions that PLAAF prefers? Obviously not, they use similar technology even better JF-17 of Pakistan uses a well proven Russian engine which has perfect rate of reliability. The difference between a J16 and JF-17 is not technology but the ability to cover a vast country such as China.

Its like saying that Mig35 is not needed when you have su35. Then why does RuAF purchase Mig35s for own fleet? Two different class of fighter jets.
 

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F20 AKA F-5G was a total of 3 prototypes made by Northrop. Northrop had hopes that the US would buy them and they could also make an international variant of the same platform. The Chinese, so far, have shown no interest in adding any variant of JF-17 platform, including BlockIII :meeting:
so if China adds BLK III to their arsenal let's suppose what argument will you be left with then? to use against JF17? so success of JF17 is solely that China must add it to their airforce? where does that come from? When the aircraft was joint development for PAF in the first place!

is this is the best argument you can bring up for the failure of an aircraft?
 
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so if China adds BLK III to their arsenal let's suppose what argument will you be left with then? to use against JF17? so success of JF17 is solely that China must add it to their airforce? where does that come from? When the aircraft was joint development for PAF in the first place!

is this is the best argument you can bring up for the failure of an aircraft?
No, Chinese will not going to induct Jf 17 because they have much better aircrafts.

Chinese does not need to induct a similar capabilities aircraft as same as Jf 17 or HAL tejas......

They are having much better aircrafts for their requirements i.e J 10, J11 J 20, Su 30 Mkk, Su 35, Su 27 ETC..

Please ask to yourself, why are Chinese happy to produce Shenyang_J-11 instead of going with Jf 17?

It is all about requirement's. Chinese with bigger economy can induct better aircraft's and even develop if require.
 
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No, Chinese will not going to induct Jf 17 because they have much better aircrafts.

Chinese does not need to induct a similar capabilities aircraft as same as Jf 17 or HAL tejas......

They are having much better aircrafts for their requirements i.e J 10, J11 J 20, Su 30 Mkk, Su 35, Su 27 ETC..

Please ask to yourself, why Chinese are happy to produce Shenyang_J-11 instead of going with J 17?

It is all about requirement's. Chinese with bigger economy can induct better aircraft's and even develop if require.
the vedick argument is that its a flop according to you lot because its NOT in Chinese service. that's what your banned countryman was using as an argument!
 

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keep dreaming beta .it is better for you .
Be real, man! Do not watch too much news (Pakistan) and listen to so called experts. Thanks
think you two should stop living in a world induced by gobar- fumes released by republic tv & see what the rest of the world is saying. this 👇👇👇 is well on its way to becoming a reality within your lifetime. denial will only speed it up.
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If JF-17 is such potent aircraft as claimed, then it's a fair question to ask - how come the Chinese airforce does not include it in its inventory?
Yeah we understand your intent of trolling but China has better planes than JF17 hence they don't induct it themselves. The program was intended for PAF for a reason.
About how potent is this fighter can be asked by IAF where they showed electronic signatures of JF17s nearest LOC back in 27th feb 2019.
 

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No, Chinese will not going to induct Jf 17 because they have much better aircrafts.

Chinese does not need to induct a similar capabilities aircraft as same as Jf 17 or HAL tejas......

They are having much better aircrafts for their requirements i.e J 10, J11 J 20, Su 30 Mkk, Su 35, Su 27 ETC..

Please ask to yourself, why are Chinese happy to produce Shenyang_J-11 instead of going with Jf 17?

It is all about requirement's. Chinese with bigger economy can induct better aircraft's and even develop if require.
Not just me but almost every analyst or even PDF observers are saying that JF-17 Thunder is no match for IAF at all hence, they need not to be worried. However, its just Indian Media that keeps coming with JF-17 capability and saying the same thing that Thunder isn't good enough. Since we are saying the same thing I don't get why Indian Media keeps repeating the same. Now, will Indian drop the argument and stop being worried about low capable JF-17 Thunder (regardless of any Block)?
 

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JF-17 meets Pakistani requirements pretty well. China is a vast country which forces her into producing flanker versions in order to cover its vast geography. Does it mean that JF-17 is techonologically inferior to flanker versions that PLAAF prefers? Obviously not, they use similar technology even better JF-17 of Pakistan uses a well proven Russian engine which has perfect rate of reliability. The difference between a J16 and JF-17 is not technology but the ability to cover a vast country such as China.

Its like saying that Mig35 is not needed when you have su35. Then why does RuAF purchase Mig35s for own fleet? Two different class of fighter jets.
you my friend talk sense youll never get a job at reputed indian news agencies known to spread Bs and destroy poor yindoos brain cell!
 

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you my friend talk sense youll never get a job at reputed indian news agencies known to spread Bs and destroy poor yindoos brain cell!
The guy doesn't know the history of this fighter jet. First it was a joint American Chinese program but Americans suddenly drorpped it in fear of transferring technology to an Asian adversary. Later Pakistan took the advantage and invested in the program in terms of technology and also budget. Its third block will be able to use PL15 with its phased array radar. A true game changer, Indians undermining it doesn't change that fact that the jet will be a true potent light weight fighter.
 

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