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JF-17 Block III , at best will be comparable to F-16 C/D , the AESA radar puts it in a separate class
Still great achievement for Pakistan's Airforce

We need to replace Mirages :coffee: From 1970's
Not a F-22 or F-35

But that is ok with the current weapons we operate
Would be nice to see once the bird is officially released how well it performs vs F16 C/D class

May be once the helmet mounted targeting pod is integrated we can analyze if the Radar plus Targeting pod make a big impact


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Fairly small steps for Aviation Sector Growth in Pakistan
You forgot Argentina...
 

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You forgot Argentina...

Yes Argentina as well they already announced a budget for 700 Million towards the plane

I wish we had a official count for International order for Confirmed orders , Interest or potential extended order , to figure out how many JF17 would be exported out

How would the balance be maintained to keep adding to Pakistan's Airforce's need for JF17 Thunder as well

We have to expand the manufacturing factory no doubt
 

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*Ahem* may I suggest that transport aircraft are better suited to carry and deploy HD-1 like missiles?

Never forget the dual use of transports when making your war plans.

That should be written on a billboard on the way to Masroor.
 

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Jf-17 good bird. But we needed a medium weight multirole fighter which would have greatly increased the survivability of air assets and ground.

But what can we do missed opportunities never arise again.

Also, am not very well-read on the Air domain. I like to stick to the sentry posts and naval planks. So go easy on me.
 

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*Ahem* may I suggest that transport aircraft are better suited to carry and deploy HD-1 like missiles?

Never forget the dual use of transports when making your war plans.

That should be written on a billboard on the way to Masroor.
Requires engineers qualified to understand those aircraft structures and make those modifications. Throwing something out the back is one thing and modifying the pylon with something is another.

However, ALBM and ALCM from C-130s has been investigated back in the 90’s and was found to be too complex and not worth the risk considering the lack and value of those assets.
 

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  • Malaysia (Interest)
  • Zambia (Interest)
 
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CriticalThought

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Requires engineers qualified to understand those aircraft structures and make those modifications. Throwing something out the back is one thing and modifying the pylon with something is another.

However, ALBM and ALCM from C-130s has been investigated back in the 90’s and was found to be too complex and not worth the risk considering the lack and value of those assets.
Sounds like an investment is needed. I personally feel the ROI is well worth it.
 

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Requires engineers qualified to understand those aircraft structures and make those modifications. Throwing something out the back is one thing and modifying the pylon with something is another.

However, ALBM and ALCM from C-130s has been investigated back in the 90’s and was found to be too complex and not worth the risk considering the lack and value of those assets.
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Sounds like an investment is needed. I personally feel the ROI is well worth it.
Without knowing the investment I don’t think that can be determined yet. More importantly, a total of 14 active C-130s means that they will have to be pulled from airlift duties to undertake these tasks and makes them an even more HVAA target for Indians.

On the other hand, a pallet onboard with paratroops would mean they can soften their own landing zone without needing CAS assets.
However, considering all the other places investment is lacking along with knowledge base I would never put this high on the priority list unless more C-130s were available.

Pakistanis tend to either look at easy tasks where they lose motivation due to being bored&lazy, or they pick bigger projects beyond their scope(AZM) where the challenge overwhelms them and they give up. It has to be the sweet spot of edge of capability so it’s right near learning skill sets.

Block-III JF is exactly that. Then it’s onto tech that goes into AZM but not AZM.
 

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Or - to ensure high probability of the kill - an aircraft loses a lot of energy in trying to shake off an AAM aimed at it with aggressive manoveurs - and it is therefore very vulnerable to the 2nd missile due to lower energy, meaning chances of it evading the 2nd missile decrease massively.

Think of it as a double tap - just to be sure the plane has gone down.
And what if JF17 is attacked first?
Now it has to shake off the incoming missile with extra mass which would the performance as you can imagine. Your aircraft would be toast.
 

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