That is a silly post. I think @Amardeep is being told by professionals that whereas there is no denying that if you have concrete data available it would be an undeniable proof of the veracity or otherwise of a claim but since a lot of this data is kept confidential more so by the Chinese and in persuance the Pakistani establishment such data is not available for discussion unless declassified.Bro, I ll give you some advice...do not waste your time giving lectures to people here on science and facts, this forum runs on speculation and discussion of news articles.
People who are not as learned as you or not as smart as you 'will not' understand your point/argument. It is analagous to speaking with a mad man continously.
Find a proper scientific/engg. forum where you as well others like you can grow, and visit Pdf only to speculate, argue on stupid speculations, or enjoy troll wars.
Good day from a fellow engineer.
The second point is that the posters here are laymen mostly who come to the forum to learn about a topic which they love .In this regard people like @gambit and @Bilal Khan 777 and@Oscar are so valuable as they explain things in simplistic terms to those laymen thereby contributing to our knowledge base. This is not too difficult to understand but @Amardeep is taking it very literally. His background is research and he wants to see the JFT in that light. However for most members on the board and indeed on most boards this is not possible. I can only hope he can understand and reconcile himself to the limitations of a public forum.
We all speculate in our lives and not wait for a mathematical solution. One of the biggest speculations is marriage!! Beat that @Amardeep. However in all fields there is a move towards being more definitive in ones assessment. However speculation works in most spheres as one has to understand that specific data is not always available.
On the foxbat issue @Amardeep totally missed the point of discussion. The speculations were based on visual accumulation of knowledge as well as data secured from secret knowledge. This was confirmed/rebutted on the evaluation of a platform . Till the platform remained elusive there was the need to discuss the capabilities based on speculation which tended to over estimate at times and sometimes under estimate the capabilities, but still you base a defensive strategy against the platform based on those speculations. To wait for specific data would be fatal.