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Javed Akhtar becomes first Indian to receive Richard Dawkins Award

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Javed Akhtar is a stateless person.
I don't think so. He's a very patriotic Indian. Yes the RSS elements hate him but begrudgingly, have to accept his high standards and rutba.

I am the one that could be considered stateless, as I am very anti-patriotic if there is such a word. But that is by choice. My loyalty is only to money, power, and liberal values.

In the real world, I don't care if you're Indian, Pakistani, or Martian.
 

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I don't think so. He's a very patriotic Indian. Yes the RSS elements hate him but begrudgingly, have to accept his high standards and rutba.

I am the one that could be considered stateless, as I am very anti-patriotic if there is such a word. But that is by choice. My loyalty is only to money, power, and liberal values.

In the real world, I don't care if you're Indian, Pakistani, or Martian.
Not RSS, by the definition of recently updated constitution of India.
 

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Not RSS, by the definition of recently updated constitution of India.
If you mean CAA-NRC implementation, then it's in cold basket permanently. Modi has faced a lot of international and domestic backlash. He will not pull that string in a very long time.

But yes that law was very discriminatory. I had supported Shaheen Bagh protests as a countermeasure. So we won't let it happen.
 

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If you mean CAA-NRC implementation, then it's in cold basket permanently. Modi has faced a lot of international and domestic backlash. He will not pull that string in a very long time.

But yes that law was very discriminatory. I had supported Shaheen Bagh protests as a countermeasure. So we won't let it happen.
Well done, in that case he's all yours.
 

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If you mean CAA-NRC implementation, then it's in cold basket permanently. Modi has faced a lot of international and domestic backlash. He will not pull that string in a very long time.

But yes that law was very discriminatory. I had supported Shaheen Bagh protests as a countermeasure. So we won't let it happen.
But the ground realities do suggest that all plans are a go with respect to A35 and A370
 

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Congratulations!!

A puncture wala recieving an award for promoting human values.

Bhatks must be on fire right now..

@padamchen @Syama Ayas @SrNair @Soumitra @silent_poison @Gandhi G in da house @manga
Plot twist. He didn't receive the award. He was only nominated.

The person who received the award has not yet been announced, 2 days after Jawed Akhtar tom tommed his achievement

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@Shantanu_Left can you post the official confirmation from Dawkins site or Twitter handle?
 

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Whose attacking secularism in India?
We want to emulate Pakistan. We agree with you , secular state is over rated. Atleast one hindu state is required in the world after nepal became commie.

He is an atheist..not a muslim...there are crores of hindus who are atheists...in that sense you can call him a hindu.
Nope . He is no atheist. Nothing wrong on practicing your religion as long as it's in a personal space.
 

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Slowly but surely

Plot twist. He didn't receive the award. He was only nominated.

The person who received the award has not yet been announced, 2 days after Jawed Akhtar tom tommed his achievement

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@Shantanu_Left can you post the official confirmation from Dawkins site or Twitter handle?
Confirmed

What are you being so defensive for? Dawkins himself isn't the problem here. Dawkins faces off against religion in a broadly equivalent manner - fair play to him for being consistent. Javed Akhtar on the other hand is world renowned for excessive pandering and apologism of sanghee hatred towards Pakistanis and Muslims. Javed Akhtar is no secularist. Rather, he is a sanghee in a Muslim poet's garb.

In fact, he would be right at home on pdf with some other Indian "secularists" that I know of.

Ironic that he should win such an award when all he ever does is apologise for and defend Hindu domination over Muslims.

His supposed "equal" vilification by Muslim and Hindu extremists is also laughable. He roundly condemns Muslims for daring to be Muslims or doing anything perceived to accidentally offend Hindus in the nation of India.

He only attacks sanghees on internal Hindu issues (artistic portrayal of gods etc) or matters wherein sangheeism damages gandhiism (all in all a cowardly and "safe" way in which to go about your business as a "secularism champion" in India), never on their mistreatment of Muslims (the true secularists who dare to defend Muslim citizens are committing hara kiri in India).

Someone who automatically parrots the nationalist mantra that basic justice and human rights for kashmiris should be secondarily dependent on action over some vague and unquantifiable and unsubstantiated allegations of "cross border terrorism" is beyond all reasonable definitions of "secularism" or "humanism" or anything vaguely neutral. The man is heavily biased to the sanghee narrative that Muslims are never victims in India or Kashmir or Pakistan and rather should be wholly blamed for bringing hindutva hatred or oppression upon themselves. He is very much the sanghee definition of "atheist" or "secularist", which is a very unique definition that doesn't match up to more traditional definitions of the same. Such "secularists" bark at Muslims for existing and as such, are not really secular in the slightest. By pandering to and apologising on behalf of the sanghee inferiority complex vis a vis Muslims, he demonstrates his true constitution.

"Javed Akhtar tweeted, "Dear Mr Afridi, since you want to see a peaceful Jammu and Kashmir sans any human rights violations could you please see to it that Pakistani terrorists stop infiltrations and Pakistan Army stops supporting the Separatists by closing down the training camps? It will greatly help in solving the problem." "

https://m.huffingtonpost.in/2016/03...txpkTwfwdoCKN4qfcEzSoZ-98D7_VnCHb4Xgy4chp_hSi

"Javed Akhtar’s larger point here was to oppose religious extremes. In doing so, he was equating people who refuse to say ‘Bharat Mata ki jai’ with those who lynch Muslims in the name of cow meat. Does he really believe the two are equal?

“Bharat Mata ki jai” is the oldest trick in the Hindutva playbook. Merge Indian nationalism with Hindu symbolism, ask Muslims to follow it, and if they don’t, voila! Go to Pakistan!"

If Javed Akhtar is India's idea of a secularist, RSS and Shiv Sena and the rest of the saffronists can take an extended holiday and leave him in charge.
Tldr
But i guess, u think he is fake,,, might as well be.
Doesn't matter.
He still remains the first person from southasia to receive the award. N hopefully it will inspire others.
 

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