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Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer - Pakistan and Israel Relation - Full Interview

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    I'm surprised that how easily he can lie...
     
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    Always trying to portray themselves as being liberals instead of the monsters they are.
     
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    He is very well spoken and lie or no lie, I think Pakistan and Israel need to have relations nothing wrong in it only gain.
     
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    Reality is that he is outspoken, lie or not. Pakistan's relations with Israel can be very, very good, there's such a huge potential, and it will give a lot of fruit as well when it comes to defence co-operation and civilian technology transfer.

    You tell me what has Palestine given us. They supported India's entry into OIC, and they gave Modi their highest civilian award. All Hamas does is throw dysfunctional rockets into Israel, which they know will be shot down by iron dome, wasting money instead of putting anything on their own people, while Hamas leaders live luxuriously outside.

    And you know where it gets better for Pakistan? Developing a really good relationship with Israel will establish a very good relationship with United States, and when you have a very good relationship with United States, consider it unconditional! You will reap a lot of benefits, not only on the defence and academic end, but also economically: USA is a huge market for Pakistan and still a major destination, while Pakistan can serve as the place for US industries to setup if they want cheap labor since US is going very tough on China. It will create a lot of jobs, and will do Pakistan a huge deal of good.

    Think broad, not narrow. We sacrificed the good of Pakistan for Palestine and they bit us like a snake by embracing with open arms our only rival India.
     
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    THIS!!!!!!!!!!............POTW!...........Pakistan First!

    :pakistan::pakistan:
     
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    Yes it would be better to at least have some relations. Look at Turkey, they trade & have relations, why can’t Pakistan do that in a mature & balanced way?

    The Palestinians never even mention Kashmir.
     
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    I am surprised how gullible some Pakistanis on this forum are... before saying that Pakistan and israel should have good relations ,you should know that Israel was the one who tried to sabotage our reactor and Mossad has been active along with Raw to destroy Pakistan , plz think before you say about Pakistan and israel having good relations ....
     
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    Mossad was also the one to co operate with Pakistan and ISI during the 80s. It was also Israel which tried to establish relations with Pakistan.

    Reality is Israel has nothing against Pakistan, the only reason they tried to sabotage Pakistan's nuclear program was because Pakistan was very bitter towards Israel, not because they have a generic hate against us like the Indians.

    These two countries still look forward to building that immense relationship for which there is potential due to their religious ideologies with nationalism. But both just don't know when.
     
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    Can you tell me exactly how Mossad cooperated with ISI?
     
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    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
     
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    I have no problem with Pakistan establishing relationship with Israel, once Israel agrees to a two state solution.

    I just wish Pakistanis saw every relationship based on national interests instead of childish rants from their favourite mullah.
     
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    They provided Ex-Egyptian soviet weapons via CIA to us which we supplied to Afghan resistance.Israelis meant business here they were in for the money.
     
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    And we returned the favor they did we did its all fair in war but no harm exploring new avenues just look at Russian we were sworn enemies during Afghan war 1979 but now both side working together for much bigger purpose
     
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    Sir your points are partially valid however I have some differences with you.
    1-The Hamas leaders are mostly living in Ghaza and face Israel atrocities just like ordinary people there. Many have shed their lives for Palestine.
    2- It's the PLO people who are back stabbers of not only of their own nation but also openly opposed Pakistan especially after Bhutto's death sentence. They kept the Palestine youngsters busy in throwing stones and to get murdered in process. Meanwhile PLO leaders enjoying luxury life style both within Palestine and outside by playing role of double agents.
    3-Pakistan off course is one of the most strong voice within Islamic world, we may play a positive role in ending blood shed in Palestine by building up relations with Israel by negotiations and certain relaxations for Ghaza people even may bring Iran within scenario though indirectly.
    4- We cannot and should not get any Military cooperation with Israel just like Russia as both are strong allies and beneficiaries of Indian economy. Our cooperation in general fields of science and technology especially in Agriculture, should be established under close watch after some peace in Ghaza and opening of Bait Ul Muqadas for Muslims.

    Our duty is more towards Holly cites rather than the people who opposed our country just like KSA, as many of their leaders in recent past have shown more tilt towards India rather than Pakistan or to Kashmir cause. The Arabs especially their leadership is dumb meanwhile Irani leadership can't come out of sectarian circle, if they support any Suni elements even then this is more or less to do with their sectarian strategy.
     
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