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Islamic Eschatology - Strategic importance!

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  1. Syed.Ali.Haider

    Syed.Ali.Haider ELITE MEMBER

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    Following rules in the correct thing to do, otherwise why have them at all? Even worse, why have them and not enforce them, or worst of all, enforce them only selectively? Oh wait, that is the Pakistani way. I do apologize for pointing it out.

    Now, back to the topic, when is the End of Days coming? I have a barbecue to plan.
     
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  2. Azadkashmir

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    it is an article i didn't write it. oppressive gunman where do they get their guns ? oh NATO supplied it like they did with Isis, what about Taliban created before 1979 before the soviets came into Afghanistan. did you know the radical books supplied to taliban were printed in Nebraska and Saudis and rest of the leaders were planted by western banker gangsters. Iraq had christian did Americans not bomb them.
     
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    How do you know that Islam is not a man made religion? What makes you think islam will prevail? Is it bias? All religions from all over the world and the past have claimed that their religion is the one true religion. What makes islam so special? Current situation is that there is growing sentiment of anti-islam and this is sweeping all over the world. Refugee crisis, immigration, sectarian violence, crimes against humanity, terrorism, forced conversions, forced implementation of sharia laws in western countries. Looks like the odds are stacked against Islam. So my question to you is. What if it's the end of islam?
     
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    as they say past history is the best indicator of future course...........check official statistics (consensus figures) of all western countries with regards to increase in population following different religions...check which religion is expanding the fastest ..........check what religion maximum people are converting to ? please don't ask me to provide any links if you have interest and challenged my post, do some research and prove me wrong with your analysis


     
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    This video has made me confused, if russians are orthodox christians that are gonna be helpfull to muslims, then why Pakistan+Saudia+Turkey are pro-US , although i hate iran for its role in destabilizing the region, but aren't they on right side of game with russia ?
     
  6. TMA

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    Well Pakistan, Saudi Arabi and Turkey better disengage with the US and NATO and they should do it quickly. Of course this is just a dream however I do wish that at least one of them does disengage however we the people should not wait for governments. We need to start acting ourselves as they do not. The people should create organizations with friendly ties with Russia. Perhaps exchange programs?

    Iran is an ally if Russia and we should support this. However we also need to bear in mind that recently Iran made agreements with P5+1. I would be very interested to know what backroom deals were made for the official agreements.

    Do not confuse the End of History with the End of the World and and the Last hour. Also you don't need to plan a barbecue - it will be too hot at the the time of the End of the World
     
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    At least I will save on charcoal. :D

    If there is no more history after the End of History, how can there be a world remaining? History will end when the world ends, unless you can explain how that can not be.
     
  8. TMA

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    You need to listen to the Sheikh's lectures to understand the important difference. He makes it quite clear.

    I do not like to use Wikipedia (as it is open to manipulation especially concerning social sciences) however here goes,

    "The end of history is a political and philosophical concept that supposes that a particular political, economic, or social system may develop that would constitute the end-point of humanity's sociocultural evolution and the final form of human government
    ".

    And

    "The concept of an end of history differs from ideas of an end of the world as expressed in various religions, which may forecast a complete destruction of the Earth or of life on Earth, and the end of the human race as we know it. The end of history instead proposes a state in which human life continues indefinitely into the future without any further major changes in society, system of governance, or economics."


    End of history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  9. Syed.Ali.Haider

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    As long as there is humanity, the sociocultural process will continue. There is no final form that will be achieved right until the End of the World. Of course, certain religions may like to believe that they will triumph in the end, but that is a prediction that can be accepted as a belief without any proof needed.

    I think I will buy a few bags of charcoal, just to be safe. :D
     
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    Funny to see haters here crying about Islamic eschatology when they themselves have their own eschathology researched and in motion.

    Typical hypocrisy and arrogance.
     
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    @TMA
    I have been researching over this subject for the past 2 yrs now. Have almost all the lectures of shiekh imran about this subject. Listened to Dr. israr's lectures and other renowned scholars of islam.
    Forums like these are not the best places to discuss such kind of important things. Keep on doing the individual effort .Don't follow some " half cooked mullah" .Open up the books of hadiths yourself and pray for Allah's guidance. and the best way to seek Allah's guidance in the end times is through Surah Kahf and i hope you know it by now.
    But one thing is sure that when you get through islamic eschatology you will come to know why are these events are happening in this world and what will be the next event so that you can prepare yourself. And Allah knows best
     
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    No! Are you with Irgun, then?

    It's nice you have a sense of humor. Enlighten us on the Jewish End of Times.

    Yes, I KNOW as in TRUTH! It is NOT my religious beliefs/scriptures that are seeking to destroy Islam's third holiest Masjid, it's the ZIONISTS!
     
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    They will never discuss it because your not supposed to know...but we do know. ;)
     
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    What?
    Well, that's just a digression from the thread topic, isn't it?

    Yup, here's a man who doesn't let checkable FACTS get in the way of what he believes is TRUTH!

    We can pity such people but why should we listen and defer to them? Because otherwise they get all violent? Have Pakistanis yet learned that doing so only encourages them to further extremes?

    Tsk. You can start a separate thread, you know.
     
  15. TMA

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    Why are forums like these not the best place? I wish to raise the profile of Islamic escahtology as it has massive strategic importance. "half cooked mullah". If you mean Sheikh Imran Hosein, I don't think he is one of those.
    I am not a scholar, whilst I can read the books of ahadith and the Quran, the deeper meanings and implications will be difficult to find without scholarly input.