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Islamic Eschatology - Strategic importance!

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  1. TMA

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    If you watch these videos on the End of History

    Sheikh Imran Hosein even talks a little on the Hindu conception of the End of History. This is one of the best lectures of his on the "philisophy of History" as it gives a layman understanding of the subject. Now of course this was 8 years ago and so his later lectures have more uptodate knowledge but still nontheless, riveting indeed!
     
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    I put up a thread on Islamic eschatology and the secularist blocked it, as it speaks against them. I don't know if there is a translated version, but if you can read this classical works of Muhammad ibn Rasul al-Hussain al-Barazanji – ‘Al-Isha’ah li-ashrat al-sa’ah'. This book goes through all the events leading to al-qayyamah from the hadith. Hadiths on fighting in Al-Shaam, Iraq, and to come Egypt. The hadith on Orthordox Christians (some say this is Russia and Allah knows best) joining us in fighting the Zionist alliance in the hadith.
     
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    Thanks, I'll look into Please God

    Well my advice is for you to look into it yourself. Watch his videos, read his books, you will understand.

    Examples from Islamic eschatology: we can identify where Gog & Magog are located. We can identify where the Anti-Christ commenced his mission to rule the world. We can identify those Christians who will have the greatest love and affection for us Muslims, we can also identify those who wish to harm us and want to stab us in the back and so much more.

    From Islamic Eschatology we know that Muslims will make an alliance with Ar Rum (and the heart of Ar Rum is now within the Russian Federation) therefore Pakistan should be striving very hard to make this alliance with Russia akin to the one with China.

    We can connect the dots of history and anticipate what is to come.

    From a national perspective it is strategically very important! With whom should we make allies? With whom should we stay clear of? Even from an individual perspective it is very important!
     
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    I sugguest that relegious descussion should be allowed and hatred against other religions should not allowed as we know many trolls also come on other posts taunting others as a hatred spreading intension..................
    Because Most of Pakistanis are Muslims and most of prophecies are proven right some may be ambiguous (neither right neither Wrong) so we can firm our believes and morale to counter and spoil plots of enemies and weaknesses among ourself,to become 1st candidate of a nation amoung muslims which was prophicised by him(Peace and blessings be upon him) tht will be major part of islamic eschatology (Inshallah).

    i.e. Ghazwa e Hind and Helping Essa ibne maryam (A.S) against jewish army led by Dajjal (Anti christ) e.t.c.
     
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    I understand if the management want to close this thread as there will be trolls who will resort to insult and slander as they realize the huge importance of this subject and they will use the technique of insult and slander to shut down any discussion. May I suggest that those trolls be banned and not the thread as that would give them victory they seek.

    In no way do I seek to spread hatred against other religions and neither does the subject of Islamic eschatology. That should be clear if you have watched Sheikh Imran Hosein's videos.
     
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    U cant blame spoon for making u fat............. they shld stop trolls not discussion and debate :)

     
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    This is tv series of Dr Shahid Masood on Islamic escathology. Dr Shahid Masood is well known personanity for his work on Current affairs/Journalism.His Recent TV programes on Islamic Escathology gave him new height amoung students of escathology i.e.Islamic/Jewish and Christian escathology (Hindu version is not confirmed according to my knowledge may be its also discussed in programes).This is 2nd series of his programe on islamic escathology 1st series was aired on ARY NEWS (as far as i remember).
    I am adding video links after Part 2 shows as part 1 consist on intro and audience input etc...



     
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    It's probably important to allow discussion of Islamic eschatology, since the "end of days" scenario is of prime importance to Islamic terrorist groups like al-Qaeda.
     
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    Thats it:yu:

    Narrated Yusair bin 'Amr: I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet (Sallal-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam) saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "there will appear in it (i.e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "

    - Sahih Al Bukhari (Book #84, Hadith #68)

    Source: Hadiths On The Present Fitna (TTP, ISIS, DAISH, etc) *MUST READ* Islamic Eschatology and Saying of prophet (SAW) also adress warn us about tht.....for Iraqs terrorists groups etc and khawarijeen (Terrorists group among Muslims)
    -Sahih Muslim Book 041, Hadith Number 6923.
    (The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Hour)

    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (Salla-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam) as saying:

    "1. Iraq would withhold its dirhams and qafiz;

    2. Syria would withhold its mudd and dinar and

    3. Egypt would withhold its irdab and dinar and

    4. You would recoil to that position from where you started and
    (Repeated). You would recoil to that position from where you started and
    (Repeated). You would recoil to that position from where you started,

    5. The bones and the flesh of Abu Huraira would bear testimony to it."

    Source: Hadiths On The Present Fitna (TTP, ISIS, DAISH, etc) *MUST READ*
    Abu Nadra reported:" We were in the company of Jabir b. 'Abdullah that he said it may happen that the people of iraq may not send their qafiz and dirhams (their measures of food stuff and their money).
    We said: Who would be respolisible for it?
    He said: The Non-Arabs would prevent them.

    He again said: There is the possibility that the people of syria may not send their dinar and mudd.
    We said: Who would be responsible for it?
    He said This prevention would be made by the Romans.
    He (Jabir b. Abdullah) kept quiet for a while and then reported Allah's Messenger (Salla-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam) having said There would be a caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to the people without counting it.
    I said to Abu Nadra and Abu al-'Ala: Do you mean 'Umarb 'Abd al-Aziz? They said: No (he would be Imam Mahdi.)

    Sahih Al Muslim (Book #041, Hadith #6961)

    Source: Hadiths On The Present Fitna (TTP, ISIS, DAISH, etc) *MUST READ*

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: I heard Allah's Apostle (Sallal-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam) saying, "There will appear some people among you whose prayer will make you look down upon yours, and whose fasting will make you look down upon yours, but they will recite the Qur'an which will not exceed their throats (they will not act on it) and they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out through the game whereupon the archer would examine the arrowhead but see nothing, and look at the unfeaThered arrow but see nothing, and look at the arrow feathers but see nothing, and finally he suspects to find something in the lower part of the arrow."

    - Sahih Al Bukhari (Book #61, Hadith #578)

    Source: Hadiths On The Present Fitna (TTP, ISIS, DAISH, etc) *MUST READ*
    Abu Dharr reported Allah's messenger (Sallal-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam) as saying: "Verily there would arise from my Ummah after me or soon after me a group (of people) who would recite the Qur'an, but it would not go beyond their throats, and they would pass clean through their religion just as the arrow passes through the prey, and they would never come back to it. They would be the worst among the creation and the creatures."
    Ibn Samit (one of the narrators) said: I met Rafi' b. 'amr Ghifari, the brother of al-Hakam Ghifari and I said: What is this hadith that I heard from abu Dharr, i. e. so and so? -and then I narrated that hadith to him and said: I heard it from the messenger of Allah (Sallal-Laho-Alaihe-Wasallam).

    - Sahih Al Muslim (Book #005, Hadith #2335)

    Source: Hadiths On The Present Fitna (TTP, ISIS, DAISH, etc) *MUST READ*
     
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    This post is directed at the Hindu members of defence.pk

    Could you please direct me to any website/scholar on the subject of Hinduism's conception of End of History/philosophy of History? I am greatly interested in learning more about this subject and wishing to make a comparison with the Islamic viewpoint.
     
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    No, it has relevance because we are living in those times. Why don't you enlighten us on Jewish scriptures on ahkiral zamaan? What about after 4th blood moon (just happened) the ''temple'' has to build before 2017? Where is this so called temple to be built? Over the ruins of Masjid Al-Aqsa! Who will sit in this temple? Who is your masheqqah? What will happen to the Arabs? Are they not to be slaughtered as mentioned in the hadith but who is going to do the killing?

    We are not like the secularists on here who are fooled by your sweet talks. We KNOW Pakistan's nuclear capability has to be destroyed before the temple can start building and the Zionist state poses us a clear and present danger to our existence.
     
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    This Mullah needs to visit a psychologist.
     
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    Yes Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability is one of the threats to Israel's messianic mission. The whole point of the false flag 9/11 was to spread destabilization in Afghanistan AND Pakistan in order to weaken Pakistan and bring about situations to be able to neutralise Pakistan. The false flag raid in Abbottabad was another example. Thank God for China when she said an attack on Pakistan is an attack on China...NATO backed down after hearing this. God knows what other false flags they are cooking up? I just pray that the traitors are rooted out.
     
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    Are you trying to troll?

    All other man-made religions would end.
    Islam would prevail.
    There is no end to Islam. End of Islam = End of the world